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Post by Skillz on May 16, 2012 13:56:17 GMT -5
Skillz... you're honestly telling me that you'd rather max a 17/12 player with no blocks than a 15/11 player with 5 blocks per game. Let's get a polygraph test i'm not saying hillman's contract is worse. i like Hillman more than Goo for sure but your argument was hilarious: "hey let me posts their stats next to each other and pretend like Hillman kills Goo, when Kennedy was better in 5 of the 6 categories you listed" |
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Post by Skillz on May 16, 2012 13:57:10 GMT -5
Also i'm as dumbfounded as Broph on NVL. Assists mean nothing. With that out of the picture, like wow, seriously?
Snyder and Glock take giant shits on him
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Post by aar on May 16, 2012 13:59:28 GMT -5
Try this on for size:
Who would you rather of these two point guards?
14.5 ppg, 10.7 apg, 1.0 spg, 0.3 bpg, 1.2 topg
17.1 ppg, 11.7 apg, 1.4 spg, 0.4 bpg, 4.8 topg
Which one is far superior despite having higher averages in 4 of 5 categories.
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Post by aar on May 16, 2012 14:01:00 GMT -5
Also i'm as dumbfounded as Broph on NVL. Assists mean nothing. With that out of the picture, like wow, seriously? Snyder and Glock take giant shits on him You'll argue apg as the reason Snyder's never made an ASG, but NVL is younger and has more ASGs and All-Defensive Team berths than both. |
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Post by brophdog88 on May 16, 2012 14:02:42 GMT -5
I do know that Goo is >85 in inside and strength, so that tilts the argument some
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Post by Skillz on May 16, 2012 14:03:42 GMT -5
Also i'm as dumbfounded as Broph on NVL. Assists mean nothing. With that out of the picture, like wow, seriously? Snyder and Glock take giant shits on him You'll argue apg as the reason Snyder's never made an ASG, but NVL is younger and has more ASGs and All-Defensive Team berths than both. Flawed logic award FTW. Coming from the guy who won championships with Rickey Francis, this is sad. And i will argue APG, because it's true LOL. Francis never made an all-star game because of assists. |
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Post by brophdog88 on May 16, 2012 14:03:58 GMT -5
Also i'm as dumbfounded as Broph on NVL. Assists mean nothing. With that out of the picture, like wow, seriously? Snyder and Glock take giant shits on him You'll argue apg as the reason Snyder's never made an ASG, but NVL is younger and has more ASGs and All-Defensive Team berths than both. Because FBB is a stats and accumlative numbers whore, objectively from a GMing standpoint there is no way I would take NVL before Snyder, Snyder is just plain better, and has A D, so he doesnt steal that well, that A defense obviously comes from somewhere |
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Post by jaycatch on May 16, 2012 14:08:35 GMT -5
Since when did people value anything other than stats defense?
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Post by brophdog88 on May 16, 2012 14:10:26 GMT -5
on the wings it makes a difference, in the post meh
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on May 16, 2012 14:18:34 GMT -5
post defense in the post is huge, not sure what you're talking about.
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on May 16, 2012 14:18:42 GMT -5
drive defense is the only one that doesn't matter.
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Post by aar on May 16, 2012 14:23:46 GMT -5
You'll argue apg as the reason Snyder's never made an ASG, but NVL is younger and has more ASGs and All-Defensive Team berths than both. Flawed logic award FTW. Coming from the guy who won championships with Rickey Francis, this is sad. And i will argue APG, because it's true LOL. Francis never made an all-star game because of assists. Not flawed logic. I'm agreeing with the fact that FBB overvalues assists. But how do you explain the defense? |
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Post by Skillz on May 16, 2012 14:26:30 GMT -5
NVL is better at stealing? Never denied that. Not like Snyder is a liability defensively, he's a top per defender. You'd take the +1 in steals over the -19 in scoring? Be my guest!
(obviously the situation is not conducive to NVL scoring, but he's never done more than 17 ppg in his career)
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Post by aar on May 16, 2012 15:59:55 GMT -5
1 more 5 plz
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Post by brophdog88 on May 16, 2012 17:07:30 GMT -5
post defense in the post is huge, not sure what you're talking about. yeah but thats not the point, rating in the post is easier to inflate than on the wing, with blocking and steals and Drive D all playing a large large part, as well as strength and quickness |
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