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Post by greeme on May 16, 2012 12:40:20 GMT -5
glock is the best pg in the league
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Post by brophdog88 on May 16, 2012 12:43:29 GMT -5
also, I see no way a sane Gm could think that NVL is better than Glock/Snyder, makes no sense at all
clearly this means aar is insane
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Post by aar on May 16, 2012 12:44:21 GMT -5
also, I see no way a sane Gm could think that NVL is better than Glock/Snyder, makes no sense at all clearly this means aar is insane Valuable vs. Better is a huge deal
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Post by brophdog88 on May 16, 2012 12:45:53 GMT -5
378 Norm Van Lier PG 82 37.3 11.0 5.1 12.6 2.2 0.1 2.3 .504 .915 .444
what part of those numbers is escaping me? I dont care if he had Bingo next to him, assists are worthless, and 11 points is eww
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on May 16, 2012 12:49:51 GMT -5
He had the second highest TS% in the league (behind Bingo) of anyone who played significant minutes.
He gets steals, rebounds, and based on box score observations defends perimeter oriented PGs exceptionally well. The only thing he doesn't do is score, and the 11 ppg is as low as it is because I'm running an inside offense. Outside of Balanced and he puts up 14-17.
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Post by brophdog88 on May 16, 2012 12:51:42 GMT -5
He had the second highest TS% in the league (behind Bingo) of anyone who played significant minutes. He gets steals, rebounds, and based on box score observations defends perimeter oriented PGs exceptionally well. The only thing he doesn't do is score, and the 11 ppg is as low as it is because I'm running an inside offense. Outside of Balanced and he puts up 14-17. meh, Tward did 17 a game inside, but thats beside the point, its great, but, he is a role playing PG, I dont see anyway thats more valuable than a Snyder, a Glock, etc
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Post by greeme on May 16, 2012 12:53:39 GMT -5
He had the second highest TS% in the league (behind Bingo) of anyone who played significant minutes. He gets steals, rebounds, and based on box score observations defends perimeter oriented PGs exceptionally well. The only thing he doesn't do is score, and the 11 ppg is as low as it is because I'm running an inside offense. Outside of Balanced and he puts up 14-17. not better than Glock
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on May 16, 2012 12:54:55 GMT -5
Either do I.
I'd take him over most only because of fit.
And Tward had a decent inside rating. Norm's inside is definitely terrible (betting the C+ is largely strength based, and would be shocked if he ever bumped to B-), guys with inside ratings in the 40s as a PG don't score in inside offenses.
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Post by Play on May 16, 2012 13:35:03 GMT -5
Ill take NVL over glock and snyder
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Post by aar on May 16, 2012 13:35:26 GMT -5
Votes
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Post by Play on May 16, 2012 13:35:38 GMT -5
Glock and Snyder are gimmicks at PG.
luckily they got moved there before Spencer changed the rules
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Post by Skillz on May 16, 2012 13:39:35 GMT -5
Let's compare per-36 numbers:
Hillman: 14.5 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 1.0 spg, 4.8 bpg, 1.66 topg Goo: 17.1 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 1.4 spg, 0.47 bpg, 1.25 topg
Is there even an argument to be had here?
LOL"D pretty hard at this one. "Is there an argument to be made here?" HEY, YEA! The dude you're putting down is better at all but one category.
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Post by aar on May 16, 2012 13:42:01 GMT -5
Let's compare per-36 numbers: Hillman: 14.5 ppg, 10.7 rpg, 1.0 spg, 4.8 bpg, 1.66 topg Goo: 17.1 ppg, 11.7 rpg, 1.4 spg, 0.47 bpg, 1.25 topg Is there even an argument to be had here? LOL"D pretty hard at this one. "Is there an argument to be made here?" HEY, YEA! The dude you're putting down is better at all but one category. Umm yeah, a negligible difference in every category EXCEPT FOR FUCKING BLOCKING! Blocking is the most important big many category and he absolutely shits on Goo. Every other difference is negligible.
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Post by aar on May 16, 2012 13:43:20 GMT -5
Skillz... you're honestly telling me that you'd rather max a 17/12 player with no blocks than a 15/11 player with 5 blocks per game.
Let's get a polygraph test
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Post by greeme on May 16, 2012 13:45:45 GMT -5
Ill take NVL over glock and snyder Has been
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