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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 2:16:47 GMT -5
I'm not sure you will find a more passionate qb in the league than Rivers. He talks a little too much but he backs it up. He's done well without receiving weapons. But he had LT and a good line to start out his career.
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 2:22:03 GMT -5
I would have Rivers anywhere from 6th to 8th.
The AFC West is garbage and he has more talent on offense then most people give him credit for.
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 2:25:52 GMT -5
Haha, this thread is funny.
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Post by ashes on Nov 30, 2009 2:29:11 GMT -5
That's fine. I don't care. Agree to disagree on that one. You really think he's on that top tier of QB's? He is.
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Post by ashes on Nov 30, 2009 2:30:29 GMT -5
I'm not even going to read the 2nd page because of that absurd notion that Big Ben isn't on the level of the top tier guys. As much I hate the Steelers, even I can't say something so ridiculous.
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Post by Matthew on Nov 30, 2009 2:39:43 GMT -5
Your high
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Post by ashes on Nov 30, 2009 2:41:16 GMT -5
And you just said Schaub, Palmer, and Ryan are on his level. lmao
I'm the biggest Texans homer and I think that statement is absolutely ridiculous. No wonder White Mamba can't get the job done!
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Post by Matthew on Nov 30, 2009 2:47:41 GMT -5
And you just said Schaub, Palmer, and Ryan are on his level. lmao I'm the biggest Texans homer and I think that statement is absolutely ridiculous. No wonder White Mamba can't get the job done! This year yes, Identical passer ratings. Last year Big Ben had a 80 passer rating, pretty ehhh. 2 years before that Big Ben was horrible. Top Tier QB's don't do that.
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 3:56:41 GMT -5
Last year Ben won a Super Bowl. Last year Ben led the Steelers on a more dramatic drive than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or any other QB in the league has led a team on.
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Post by Ducky on Nov 30, 2009 3:59:34 GMT -5
Aaron Rodgers > All.
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Post by Martinez on Nov 30, 2009 10:07:58 GMT -5
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Post by ashes on Nov 30, 2009 10:46:22 GMT -5
It'd be nice if he had an OLine. I'm interested to see what he can do with one.
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 10:58:32 GMT -5
Last year Ben won a Super Bowl. Last year Ben led the Steelers on a more dramatic drive than Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, or any other QB in the league has led a team on. So one play makes a player? Brady also led his team on two Super Bowl winning drives, but I suppose those don't count for some reason. The notion that he's as good as Brady or Manning is ridiculous. I really don't understand how you could even try to make that argument.
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 10:59:15 GMT -5
I'm not even going to read the 2nd page because of that absurd notion that Big Ben isn't on the level of the top tier guys. As much I hate the Steelers, even I can't say something so ridiculous. The fact that you think he's as good as Brady or Manning pretty much discounts your opinion.
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Post by Martinez on Nov 30, 2009 11:01:18 GMT -5
Brady is overrated in my eyes. Look what Matt Cassell did last season and look what he's doing this season. Brady is a good QB but he's a product of the system. I mean look at his weapons to Randy Moss and Wes Welker? No one even talks about Randy Moss all that much anymore and he still puts up monster numbers year after year.
and I'm sorry but Eli Manning and the NY Giants drive with that ridiculous Steve Smith catch was and is probably one of the most dramatic drives in Superbowl history.
Roethlisberger is another overrated QB.
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