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Post by brophdog88 on Jul 15, 2011 11:42:40 GMT -5
3 Juno Tremont PF Clippers 8.9
that Juno shoots the third most FT's per game is nothing, doesnt help at all
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on Jul 15, 2011 11:42:44 GMT -5
^ this is true with regards to a turnover being worse than a missed shot.
Juno was less efficient as a shooter than Keane, but did a better job of not turning it over. The end result is both guys produce about 111 points per possession used, which is right around league average. For a big man, that's fine, but goes back to the point that there are very few big men who should be options in this league, and Juno isn't one of them.
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Post by brophdog88 on Jul 15, 2011 11:44:26 GMT -5
ehh if he isnt an option though he doesnt get to the line as much, and therefore does not get opposing bigs into foul trouble
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Post by brophdog88 on Jul 15, 2011 11:44:50 GMT -5
I built my entire title team around that philosophy
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on Jul 15, 2011 11:45:38 GMT -5
Eh that whole getting guys into foul trouble thing is overrated. The vast majority of the time it's not going to have an impact.
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Post by Martinez on Jul 15, 2011 11:46:20 GMT -5
Eh that whole getting guys into foul trouble thing is overrated. The vast majority of the time it's not going to have an impact. apparently got broph a couple of championships
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Post by brophdog88 on Jul 15, 2011 11:48:21 GMT -5
Eh that whole getting guys into foul trouble thing is overrated. The vast majority of the time it's not going to have an impact. if you opponent has a stud Center, or PF, its huge, Alf destroyed opposing bigs despite shooting sub 44% in the playoffs, because they couldnt stay in the game, which hurts rebounding, and interior defense as a whole...actually, AR shot worse than that even
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on Jul 15, 2011 11:49:18 GMT -5
Broph won because managed to have two of the most efficient big men in the league on his team in Alf and Randolph, while having a dominant defense, and solid shooters around that.
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on Jul 15, 2011 11:50:19 GMT -5
Are the boxes still up? I'd love to see how many minutes a game the opposing starting PF/C averaged.
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Post by brophdog88 on Jul 15, 2011 11:50:26 GMT -5
Broph won because managed to have two of the most efficient big men in the league on his team in Alf and Randolph, while having a dominant defense, and solid shooters around that. Randolph didnt turn it over, but that first year he was a 42% shooter, and Alf shot sub 44 in the playoffs
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Post by brophdog88 on Jul 15, 2011 11:50:59 GMT -5
Are the boxes still up? I'd love to see how many minutes a game the opposing starting PF/C averaged. nah, they got overwritten each year
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Post by brophdog88 on Jul 15, 2011 11:51:30 GMT -5
I only know Alf shot 44% because I calculated it, we shot like 44.6 as a team
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Post by Haberino on Jul 15, 2011 11:53:04 GMT -5
both guys were like 85+ from the line and ridiculous rebounder shotblockers
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Post by Skillz on Jul 15, 2011 11:53:22 GMT -5
i would never, ever, ever trade Keane for Juno. Keane could do soooo much. He has the AK47 quality in him and could be a 19/11/4/3 guy if i made him an option....i just don't want him shooting 44% to do 20/10.
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on Jul 15, 2011 11:53:55 GMT -5
Both were elite rebounders too though. Being elite on the offensive glass goes a long way towards offsetting mediocre to bad shooting percentages. Petit still put up a 116 oRtg last year despite a mediocre TS%.
Juno, for a B+ rebounder, really isn't that dominant on the boards. I'm not sure if that's due to positioning or maybe it's a low B+, but 12 per 40 isn't really that great.
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