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Post by Matthew on Dec 5, 2009 3:20:36 GMT -5
That was Utahs biggest game of their history, and Alabama didn't even want to be there. With that rationality, because Ole Miss beat us last year and Vanderbilt beat them, Vanderbilt should of beat us. It's college football, you know this kind of shit happens. Alabama would beat Oregon 9 out of 10 times. Not even close to the same rationality. Alabama finally faced a legitimate out of conference team, and what happened? They got punched around. Dropping one game in your conference doesn't bother me. Every year when USC was winning pac-10 championships, they always lost a pac-10 game every year that they shouldn't have. I understand, shit happens. But to lose in a BCS game against a team that was less superior (in most people's eyes at the time) is just silly. Va Tech win was nice, but when the SEC sucks, and the rest of your non conference games are against Middle New Mexico State Tech A&M International Community College III, then you haven't proven anything other than you can beat 5 loss teams, congrats. THE SEC SUCKS?  Why am I even talking to you anymore. BCS Standings RK TEAM RECORD 1 Florida 12-0 2 Alabama 12-0 Only If you had the luxury to face the next best team in the nation tomorrow. Our schedule including tomorrows game is harder than Oregon's this year. The SEC is far and away so much better than the Pac 10 almost every year so why the hell would a SEC schedule another great team that is non conference? So if we had a cupcake conference and scheduled a couple top 25 non conference teams, our schedule would be more impressive? lol please. There's a reason the last 3 champions are from the SEC and will be this year again. |
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Post by Ducky on Dec 5, 2009 3:42:09 GMT -5
Booo. Florida does play a crap schedule, they really need to schedule someone out of conference. The SEC has been really good the past 3-4 years, but this year was a down year. They play 2 really good teams and then a bunch of meh teams. Arkansas, Tennessee, etc are all OK, but really nothing special. That being said, Texas played an even worse schedule so it doesn't really matter. I'm not going to feel bad for anybody. And FSU used to be a powerhouse, they just need to get their shit together. #2 Alabama, #3 LSU not at home, sooo crappy. That alone is much harder than anything OSU or Oregon had to face this year and its a down year for us. If we faced Oregon's or OSU's schedule over the past 20 years, we would have been to 2-3 more Championships than we have now. Sounds crazy but look at our season results since about 1993. A #1 FSU team knocked us out of the Championship game numerous years, top Tennessee, Auburn, and Georgia teams didn't help either. You're right about the past, but that's not what I'm arguing about. This argument started because I said that Alabama is overrated and the ducks could take them. And I'm trying to prove a point that their undefeated record doesn't show much other than they are consistent at beating average to crap teams the last two years. |
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Post by Ducky on Dec 5, 2009 3:49:35 GMT -5
Not even close to the same rationality. Alabama finally faced a legitimate out of conference team, and what happened? They got punched around. Dropping one game in your conference doesn't bother me. Every year when USC was winning pac-10 championships, they always lost a pac-10 game every year that they shouldn't have. I understand, shit happens. But to lose in a BCS game against a team that was less superior (in most people's eyes at the time) is just silly. Va Tech win was nice, but when the SEC sucks, and the rest of your non conference games are against Middle New Mexico State Tech A&M International Community College III, then you haven't proven anything other than you can beat 5 loss teams, congrats. THE SEC SUCKS? Why am I even talking to you anymore. BCS Standings RK TEAM RECORD 1 Florida 12-0 2 Alabama 12-0 Only If you had the luxury to face the next best team in the nation tomorrow. Our schedule including tomorrows game is harder than Oregon's this year. The SEC is far and away so much better than the Pac 10 almost every year so why the hell would a SEC schedule another great team that is non conference? So if we had a cupcake conference and scheduled a couple top 25 non conference teams, our schedule would be more impressive? lol please. There's a reason the last 3 champions are from the SEC and will be this year again. Lol Florida got those championships, not the SEC.. That's like me saying the pac-10 is great because from 2002-2007, USC was in 2 championships and was considered by other polls champions in 2 different years in that span. And the only reason LSU got the nod is because everyone overrates the SEC. OK they were good in the past, we get it. But they are OVERRATED now. And of course LSU would get the nod over everyone else because they beat lost to 2 average SEC teams in triple OT and beat the rest of the SEC opponents, so they automatically get in... You guys must be related to Notre Dame. www.fanblogs.com/bcs_poll/007366.phpMy summary opinion: SEC is overrated and really only has 2 really good teams, after that they are all average. Sure they may have been good in the past, but if you really think going undefeated in the SEC without playing the top team in your conference and scheduling shit non conference teams is impressive and proves your teams worth, then hey lets stop arguing now because I disagree 100%. We will go no where with this argument. If you agree with me on that, then great, that's all I was trying to get to.. |
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Post by Matthew on Dec 5, 2009 4:19:57 GMT -5
I'm not going to feel bad for anybody. And FSU used to be a powerhouse, they just need to get their shit together. #2 Alabama, #3 LSU not at home, sooo crappy. That alone is much harder than anything OSU or Oregon had to face this year and its a down year for us. If we faced Oregon's or OSU's schedule over the past 20 years, we would have been to 2-3 more Championships than we have now. Sounds crazy but look at our season results since about 1993. A #1 FSU team knocked us out of the Championship game numerous years, top Tennessee, Auburn, and Georgia teams didn't help either. You're right about the past, but that's not what I'm arguing about. This argument started because I said that Alabama is overrated and the ducks could take them. And I'm trying to prove a point that their undefeated record doesn't show much other than they are consistent at beating average to crap teams the last two years. Yes, the SEC is all crap teams. Your ridiculous. Take a look at your own conference, how many years straight was USC a top team and the rest were basically nobody's? |
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Post by Ducky on Dec 5, 2009 4:26:31 GMT -5
You're right about the past, but that's not what I'm arguing about. This argument started because I said that Alabama is overrated and the ducks could take them. And I'm trying to prove a point that their undefeated record doesn't show much other than they are consistent at beating average to crap teams the last two years. Yes, the SEC is all crap teams. Your ridiculous. Take a look at your own conference, how many years straight was USC a top team and the rest were basically nobody's? Again you're referring to the past... I'm not arguing the quality of the SEC in the past and perhaps the lack thereof on the Pac-10's side. But right now, Alabama and Florida, their undefeated records are kinda silly. Why shouldn't have Utah been in the national championship last year? After all they were undefeated when no one else was and with just as impressive wins as Florida or Alabama have this year. Again it has to do with the fact you guys are the SEC, and you guys get the benefit of the doubt just because you have that label. It doesn't matter if you guys suck ass this year, you'll still get dick sucking from most the media and most poll voters. Whatever though, you guys will be in the championship, so I can't argue that. I still think it's ridiculous how Alabama and Florida scheduled this year, but I quit lol.. I'm getting tired and I'm also getting a bit sick. Good arguing, and good luck against Alabama. |
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Post by Matthew on Dec 5, 2009 4:39:09 GMT -5
THE SEC SUCKS? Why am I even talking to you anymore. BCS Standings RK TEAM RECORD 1 Florida 12-0 2 Alabama 12-0 Only If you had the luxury to face the next best team in the nation tomorrow. Our schedule including tomorrows game is harder than Oregon's this year. The SEC is far and away so much better than the Pac 10 almost every year so why the hell would a SEC schedule another great team that is non conference? So if we had a cupcake conference and scheduled a couple top 25 non conference teams, our schedule would be more impressive? lol please. There's a reason the last 3 champions are from the SEC and will be this year again. Lol Florida got those championships, not the SEC.. That's like me saying the pac-10 is great because from 2002-2007, USC was in 2 championships and was considered by other polls champions in 2 different years in that span. And the only reason LSU got the nod is because everyone overrates the SEC. OK they were good in the past, we get it. But they are OVERRATED now. And of course LSU would get the nod over everyone else because they beat lost to 2 average SEC teams in triple OT and beat the rest of the SEC opponents, so they automatically get in... You guys must be related to Notre Dame. www.fanblogs.com/bcs_poll/007366.phpMy summary opinion: SEC is overrated and really only has 2 really good teams, after that they are all average. Sure they may have been good in the past, but if you really think going undefeated in the SEC without playing the top team in your conference and scheduling shit non conference teams is impressive and proves your teams worth, then hey lets stop arguing now because I disagree 100%. We will go no where with this argument. If you agree with me on that, then great, that's all I was trying to get to.. What?!?!! Florida got those not the SEC? Ya no shit but it shows the talent of the conference which is what we are discussing. In response to your last paragraph, I've said this weeks before the season and I'll say it now, the SEC is having a down year because LSU is in their last year of rebuilding, Georgia is in their 1st, Tennessee is in their 1st, and Auburn is a year away from being a good team again. Teams like Ole Miss, Arkansas and South Carolina all have been ranked throughout the season and are solid teams and are better than the middle of the road Pac 10 teams. For a conference having a "bad year" and the top 2 teams are undefeated ranked 1 and 2, it shows a lot. Newsflash, the season isn't over, both teams have to face each other. It's just funny how you can say the SEC is crap when its still the best conference, and you know that. Part of the reason you feel this way is because of expectations. The gators won it all last year and were heavy favorites this year. Everyone expected them to be blowing teams out game after game and playing top teams every week to show their still worthy but that didn't happen. Ducky look at it this way, If Alabama is going to win it all they would have to go undefeated and beat #7 Virginia Tech, Arkansas who is very solid, #20 Ole Miss (once top 5), #22 South Carolina, #9 LSU (Once top 3), Solid Auburn team, Tennnessee, #1 Florida (Enuff Said), and #2 Texas. If Florida is going to win it all they would have to go undefeated and beat Tennessee, #3 LSU on the road, Arkansas, Georgia/USC, #2 Alabama, and #2 Texas. If one of the two are going to win it all, they had to face some damn good teams. So both teams have to go undefeated and beat three top 3 teams to win it all. That is no different from any other year and would be alot harder than having to go through the Pac 10 or Big 10 route to the title. I'd much rather play #22 Nebraska right now rather than the next best team that's for sure. |
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Post by Matthew on Dec 5, 2009 4:41:43 GMT -5
Yes, the SEC is all crap teams. Your ridiculous. Take a look at your own conference, how many years straight was USC a top team and the rest were basically nobody's? It doesn't matter if you guys suck ass this year, you'll still get dick sucking from most the media and most poll voters. The last 3 Championships and two current 12-0 teams will do that, however they don't affect the BCS standings. |
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Post by Matthew on Dec 5, 2009 4:45:54 GMT -5
Ducky, you brought this upon yourself. You will never hear me give the ole SEC rant for no reason like Scott used to do just to trash everything thats not SEC but your going overboard with your opinions of the opinions in why you think the SEC is overated.
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Post by Jeff on Dec 5, 2009 11:41:57 GMT -5
Booo. Florida does play a crap schedule, they really need to schedule someone out of conference. The SEC has been really good the past 3-4 years, but this year was a down year. They play 2 really good teams and then a bunch of meh teams. Arkansas, Tennessee, etc are all OK, but really nothing special. That being said, Texas played an even worse schedule so it doesn't really matter. I'm not going to feel bad for anybody. And FSU used to be a powerhouse, they just need to get their shit together. #2 Alabama, #3 LSU not at home, sooo crappy. That alone is much harder than anything OSU or Oregon had to face this year and its a down year for us. If we faced Oregon's or OSU's schedule over the past 20 years, we would have been to 2-3 more Championships than we have now. Sounds crazy but look at our season results since about 1993. A #1 FSU team knocked us out of the Championship game numerous years, top Tennessee, Auburn, and Georgia teams didn't help either. No. That's not true. Go back and look at OSU's schedule from the past 10 years. The Big Ten has only been down recently, but don't get carried away. OSU has played Texas and USC out of conference in the past 5 years, both teams were in the National Championship picture at the time. Florida State has not been relevant for at least 5 years, so if they knocked you out of the championship game in 1999 who gives a shit? It's impossible to argue with either of you because you get so irrational it's laughable. I'm definitely a homer, but I don't throw out random ridiculous statements at anywhere near the frequency that you two do. |
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Post by styro on Dec 5, 2009 12:06:17 GMT -5
Ucla beat Tenesseee on the road and Ucla blows. I know, i'm a UCLA fan. So Sec middle of the pack teams are not better than Pac 10 middle of the pack teams.
Cal, Stanford, USC are all better than Ole Miss' and Arkansas. Washington almost beat LSU and they are in the bottom 3 in the Pac 10. Not impressed by SEC at all. Everyone still keeps crowning them as the best conference, but i don't see it.
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Post by ashes on Dec 5, 2009 13:37:16 GMT -5
yeee texas
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Post by ashes on Dec 5, 2009 13:39:17 GMT -5
i just hope SEC officials aren't ref'ing the NC game!
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Post by Pig on Dec 5, 2009 13:59:31 GMT -5
Ucla beat Tenesseee on the road and Ucla blows. I know, i'm a UCLA fan. So Sec middle of the pack teams are not better than Pac 10 middle of the pack teams. Cal, Stanford, USC are all better than Ole Miss' and Arkansas. Washington almost beat LSU and they are in the bottom 3 in the Pac 10. Not impressed by SEC at all. Everyone still keeps crowning them as the best conference, but i don't see it. Yeah but then Ole Miss blew out Tenessee. I don't agree that Cal and Stanford are better then Ole Miss BTW. |
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Post by ashes on Dec 5, 2009 14:00:29 GMT -5
No way Cal is
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Post by ashes on Dec 5, 2009 14:00:49 GMT -5
Stanford, maybe
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Why am I even talking to you anymore.
