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Post by aar on May 14, 2012 15:32:22 GMT -5
not even doing it to raise his value (he's a fa, i could lose him). but it's not even a comparison statistically. And if Frazier was on ORL, they'd be better than they are with NVL. NVL is younger... You're probably right though regarding Frazier vs. NVL. I personally really like NVL and I guess that shows in my article.
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Post by Haberino on May 14, 2012 15:32:44 GMT -5
lold hard at NVL at 15
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Post by aar on May 14, 2012 15:36:51 GMT -5
I should put Al Skinner in the top-10 just for a negative reaction.
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on May 14, 2012 15:39:19 GMT -5
That's you being crazy then No i wouldn't. Snyder is a better defender, a far better offensive player, and has proven to be less TO prone as an option. NVL is a better stats defender and rebounder. Passing doesn't matter. Much rather have Snyder. Don't understand the appeal of NVL. Sure he's a nice place holder at PG, and perfect for ORL, but he's a 15-18 ppg guy as an option on 2.5+ to's. As a non-option, he's a non-factor offensively and clearly not a good per defender with that rating. lol at him not being a good perimeter defender with that rating. Drive defense makes up a big part of a pg's rating, and based on what I've seen from NVL against opposing PGs, he's a high perimeter defense guy. I'd bet a few picks that NVL has a significantly higher perimeter defense rating than drive defense. You don't hold teams to 42% shooting with a crappy positional defender at PG.
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Post by brophdog88 on May 14, 2012 15:40:24 GMT -5
NVL that high is a joke, hes good, but not a star, and the top 20 value players in the league absolutely must be stars
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on May 14, 2012 15:40:55 GMT -5
Wouldn't have won more games with Frazier either. NVLs percentages >>>. Also pretty damned hard to win more than 70.
And for the record, NVL prob shouldn't be on this list (as in I don't think I'd have him in my top 50), he's not a good fit for most teams, he's just a very, very, very good role playing PG.
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Post by brophdog88 on May 14, 2012 15:43:58 GMT -5
what Repole said
also, Bingo Smith should single handedly take up the entire top 5
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Post by brophdog88 on May 14, 2012 15:44:48 GMT -5
Lloyd Neal is too high too, its not that he isnt good, but, he is expiring/ (now is testing), and isnt an elite rebounder or scorer, should drive his value into the mid to lower 20's
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Post by aar on May 14, 2012 15:46:35 GMT -5
NVL is my homey
Repole, trade him to me so I can overpay
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on May 14, 2012 15:55:33 GMT -5
I'm open to offers
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Post by jaycatch on May 14, 2012 16:53:13 GMT -5
Tom Boswell is better than Lloyd Neal, but Neal is a stats defender.
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Post by jaycatch on May 14, 2012 16:56:56 GMT -5
Of course I'm biased there, but this off-season will be very generous to him with camps. If there is potential there, golly gee.
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Post by greeme on May 14, 2012 17:01:35 GMT -5
Of course I'm biased there, but this off-season will be very generous to him with camps. If there is potential there, golly gee. I wouldn't move Gilmore for either Over 85 inside, strength,d reb, shotblocking Decent from the line
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Post by Blue on May 14, 2012 17:51:52 GMT -5
It's close between Artis and Neal, but factoring in contracts, I'd have to give the value-edge to Gilmore. He has one of the nicest contracts in the league
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Post by Blue on May 14, 2012 17:52:28 GMT -5
He's still no Campy though.
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