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Post by styro on May 14, 2012 14:19:04 GMT -5
i expect to see freddie boyd in top 10 then
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Post by aar on May 14, 2012 14:26:28 GMT -5
The point guard of a 70 win team shouldn't be top-50? lol, he was on a 40-some win team and still wasn't all that great. I mean, we gonna put mediocre players in there cause of their team success now? Ask Repole what he thinks... If he agrees with you guys, I'd be surprised. You bring up the Hawks, but what was his supporting cast? |
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Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on May 14, 2012 14:31:32 GMT -5
He's not a TO whore when he's an option like Skillz says, not sure where he got that idea. He had one year where he turned it over 3 times a game, and even so, his steals tend to make up for any TO issues.
But he's a role playing PG. Good defender, nice percentages, doesn't hurt with turnovers, good rebounder. If you don't need scoring, there aren't a lot of guys I'd rather have. If scoring is a priority, then he isn't a good fit. I overpaid to get him because of how well he fits with my roster, but in terms of league wide value? Eh. I wouldn't trade Willie Davis for him, I'll put it that way.
I actually love that he doesn't score though. More shots for Bingo. I don't have a natural scorer on my team other than Bingo, and because of it he puts up a point per minute.
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Post by Play on May 14, 2012 15:12:58 GMT -5
Dickey at 18 is a fucking joke
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Post by Play on May 14, 2012 15:14:01 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Dickey for any of the guys ahead of him.
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Post by jaycatch on May 14, 2012 15:14:20 GMT -5
Ask Repole what he thinks... If he agrees with you guys, I'd be surprised. You bring up the Hawks, but what was his supporting cast? The team that got me to the ECF's or the team the next year with a top-3 point differential and top-2 stats defense that battled injury issues all year and missed Pistol for 6 games of the 1st round? Norm wins. On a team that doesn't need him to score, he pretty much does everything else well. Also turnovers are wholly overstated in this league on an individual basis. Team turnovers are the important thing. |
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Post by Skillz on May 14, 2012 15:14:48 GMT -5
The point guard of a 70 win team shouldn't be top-50? John Smyth was my starting PG for a 65 win team like 7 years ago and he wasn't top 100 in value. |
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Post by jaycatch on May 14, 2012 15:15:20 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Dickey for any of the guys ahead of him. Given that he didn't resign, doesn't look much like a problem you'll have to worry about this year. |
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Post by Skillz on May 14, 2012 15:15:31 GMT -5
For example. there is a zero percent chance i'd trade Snyder for NVL.
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Post by Skillz on May 14, 2012 15:22:12 GMT -5
NVL over Frazier just doesn't make sense. They are similar, just Walt's better at everything. By a lot.
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Post by aar on May 14, 2012 15:22:19 GMT -5
I wouldn't trade Dickey for any of the guys ahead of him. You might not have that problem in a few days. |
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Post by aar on May 14, 2012 15:23:53 GMT -5
For example. there is a zero percent chance i'd trade Snyder for NVL. That's you being crazy then |
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Post by Skillz on May 14, 2012 15:28:28 GMT -5
For example. there is a zero percent chance i'd trade Snyder for NVL. That's you being crazy then No i wouldn't. Snyder is a better defender, a far better offensive player, and has proven to be less TO prone as an option. NVL is a better stats defender and rebounder. Passing doesn't matter. Much rather have Snyder. Don't understand the appeal of NVL. Sure he's a nice place holder at PG, and perfect for ORL, but he's a 15-18 ppg guy as an option on 2.5+ to's. As a non-option, he's a non-factor offensively and clearly not a good per defender with that rating. |
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Post by Skillz on May 14, 2012 15:29:20 GMT -5
4 Dick Snyder PG 78 39.1 29.2 4.4 7.0 1.4 0.2 2.6 .489 .898 .410
WTF does this guy have to do lOL. yea, the dude that did 15/11/6/3.0 to's the last time he was an option is the better player!
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Post by Skillz on May 14, 2012 15:30:52 GMT -5
not even doing it to raise his value (he's a fa, i could lose him). but it's not even a comparison statistically.
And if Frazier was on ORL, they'd be better than they are with NVL.
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