Post by brophdog88 on Feb 27, 2011 9:36:07 GMT -5
I decided to rank the top 5 players at each position this is C/PF/SF's. This is not a judge of value, but a judge of overall ability, age be damned, and salary doesnt matter. I stuck with statistics for the most part unless it was very close, in which case overall ratings did play a factor…defensive rating specifically. I attempted to rank players off position played this last year, not listed position. Without further ado, I give you the rankings:
Though he may not have the best ratings in the league, Lopez gets the nod as the best Center in the league, he isn’t going to wow you with overwhelming numbers, like most centers, however, 20.5 points 12 boards is pretty sick, and he chips in 3.7 blocks and 1.1 steals to only 1.5 tunovers a game. His FT shooting is what really puts him over the top, there arent many big men in the league who you would look to get the ball at the end of a close game, Lopez though is your first option. 92% from the FT line as a big man? That’s amazing. He was DPOY last year, and can get you 20 a game if not more, this year was his lowest scoring output since his rookie year. Multiple time 1st team Center.
Sean O’mara is a very coveted player in the league…I should know, Ive tried to get him at least twice a week since he was drafted. He is a very well balanced player, and the best post scorer of the three or so it would seem. However, he doesn’t defend as well statistically or ratings wise. He is a slightly better FT shooter though than Gasol, but far worse than Lopez still, and Gasol is a better rebounder. While I focused mainly on performance, . After remembering to look at FT attempts…O’Mara goes ahead of Gasol as he gets to the line to shoot 8 a game, and getting opposing bigs in foul trouble is always nice.
3 Magic Marc Gasol C 32 7'1'' 271 A- C- C A- A- C
Marc Gasol falls third behind Lopez and O’Mara but he really isn’t any worse…as a matter of fact, the top 3 are all easily interchangeable, they all score well, and are monster defensive players. Gasol is the best rebounder of the three, but he also scored the fewest points. His defensive stats are even with Lopez, though he does turn it over a bit more. I put him below because unlike Lopez, Gasol, isn’t a top 10 FT shooter in the league, and O’Mara gets to the line more than him.
Dwight Howard represents the big drop off from the top 3 to #4. He is obviously an elite defensive player, with A+ in Defense and rebounding, however, offensively Dwight is far worse than the first three. Shooting a disappointing 42.6% and only scoring 15.1 points per game. He is the best rebounded in the league, though he ended up ranked second best behind Ibaka he was on a team with LeBron James and Amir Johnson, both of whom are also excellent rebounders. His biggest weakness outside his offense is the fact that he turns the ball over more than the rest. However, his 3.8 blocks and 1.8 steals definitely make up for that, and he is a pretty nice passer…at least he has been over his career,, he dropped off this year, I assume this can be attributed to a non option status.
Martynas ends up on this list as really there is nobody else who is deserving. He is a nice passer, and excellent defensive player, Spence revealed he had 90+post D, so even if his Defensive rating is a bit disappointing, he is a very nice defender. His rebounding is top tier, but his offense has dropped off tthis year, both points wise and Field goal percentage wise. He blocks and steals slightly worse than Dwight, but also commits slightly fewer turnovers. 15 points 13.6 rebounds 3.1 assists 1.7 steals 3.1 blocks is nothing to scoff at.
*I find it funny that my top 6 Centers all reside in the East...sucks for me though
Derrick Favors earns the nod over Currybecause he is a better scorer, and that is a very valuable asset. Well, that and the fact that he is a 27 point 13.6 rebound Post player who can chip in a good 3 blocks and a steal each night. His turnovers aren’t amazingly low, but as a stud scoring first option big, 1.9 is nothing to be upset about, its fine. Honestly, if I had to decide a downside, its that he isn’t an amazing FT shooter I guess, and he isn’t a great passer…neither of which is a big deal. He gets to the foul liine more than any other player in the league, and of course that hurts the other team in more than just easier chances at the line, getting opposing PF’s in foul trouble can make a big difference.
Curry gets the nod at #2 over Jonas. Despite being 34 years old he is a superb player. He has always had low ratings, however, he may be the best big man the league has seen. His scoring is amazing, his rebounding is outstanding 24 .1 points 13.5 rebounds 45 games into the season (Spence hasn’t updated the player pages, or history so I only have the old stuff to go by). He is an excellent shot blocker, and does not turn the ball over at all. On the downside he is an average FT shooter, but he gets to the line second most in the league., and he cant pass for shit. It would have been foul problems, but he has apparently completely gotten past those this year, with 0 foul outs, and 38 mpg through 45 this year which is tough to do as a big.
Jonas may be listed at SF, but he played PF for the Clippers and is a true big, except for his big weakness, he cant block or steal. However, he has range out to three, which is useful, and is an excellent Rebounder. His big standout though is his 4.1 assists per game out of the PF spot, quite impressive. If he could reign in his turnovers, he would move up this list, but his poor steals+blocks to turnovers as a big man holds him back. 27.6 points 13.3 boards 4.1 assists is nothing to scoff at though and earns him the 3rd best PF mark.
4 Hawks Blake Griffin PF 28 6'10'' 260 A- C- C B+ A B
Offensively Griffin is quite good, however, his best attribute is that he is an amazing rebounder pulling down 13.8 a game. He does block shots and steal but, his 2.4 turnovers a game hold him back, as he only has a +1 steals and blocks to turnovers ratio. His Ft shooting is not stellar either, but at #4 you cant ask for a player to be perfect. 22 points 13.8 rebounds is great out of a starting big.
Amare loses to Blake Griffin, but honestly I should probably put this as a tie for fourth. He is a far better shot blocker, at 3.8 a game, and reigns in his turnovers better, on the other hand, his scoring is worse, percentage and points wise, and he is a good 2 rebounds a game worse overall. I didn’t want to take the cheap way out and go with a tie, so I decided to just go with who I would rather have for a season, and as good as steals and blocks to turnovers are, the offensive efficiency and rebounds make me like Blake more.
Even at 35 Gerald Wallace still has it going for him. He took a slight step back this year…his rebounding was worse, however, 33.2 points 7.2 rebounds 1.9 steals 1.8 blocks is amazing…AND he shot 53.3% from the field. His FT shooting is still great, though his three point shooting is quite sub par. He doesn’t pass well at all, but his handles are amazing as a number one option, and that earns him the nod over perry Jones and LeBron James. Gerald is near the end of his rope, but I just don’t see how you can deny his being the best SF in the league…and possibly the best player.
2 Heat LeBron James SF 32 6'9'' 243 A A B+ B B+ D
I struggled a lot with this next decision, I badly wanted to put Perry over LeBron, however, LeBrons amazing scoring, and especially his shooting percentages made me give him the nod. 50.4% from the field 87.7%from the line and 40.8% from three is amazing, add in the fact that he is a 32.4 ppg guy, 8.4 rebounds, 4.7 assists a game player. He struggles with turnovers, at 2.9 a game, but he does make it up with 2.1 steals and 1.1 blocks each night. A A scoring is crazy too.
3 Bulls Perry Jones SF 26 7'0'' 230 A- A- B A B B
Perry Jones falls third on this list, surprising for sure, but, he is still 26, so if this were a trade value he would easily be at the top. He may be the most well rounded player in the league, even more so than LeBron, since he is an A defender, and a better rebounder, and got more assists this past year. His scoring isn’t on par, as he shoots just 47.2% from the field and only scored 27.8 a game..(lol at just and only but in comparison to the first two they sucks), however he has a better steals+blocks to turnover ratio (2.6-2 vs. 3.2 to 2.9 )than LeBron, which makes him the more well rounded player, just overall LeBron is more dominant in his best area than Jones is better in his.. The top three at this position is stronger overall than any other, all three players are MVP quality.
4 Lakers Michael Gilchrist SF 24 6'7'' 199 B+ A C A B+ B
Actually, Gilchrist could be as well, if he wasn’t on a lakers team with 4 20+ ppg scorers, it makes it tough to standout. He didn’t have as good of an overall FG% as Perry, however, he has a better FT% and 3 point percentage, and is an amazing rebounder, 9.3 a game. He also has a better steals and blocks to turnovers ratio, 1.9-1.3, but, he just hasn’t shown he can shoulder the scoring load, even if I would bet he could, and while he is a great defender, his passing numbers would seem to me to be a bit inflated by all the scoring options around him. I cant say I would take him over Perry, or any of the others above him for one year, but 26.2 points 9.3 rebounds 3.4 assists is quite impressive.
5 Warriors Carmelo Anthony SF 33 6'8'' 240 B+ A- C B- C+ C
Melo honestly probably shouldn’t be on this list…Harrison Barnes is every bit the player that should be here, he is far better defensively, a better rebounder, and has sick scoring ratings too, thing is…it just doesn’t pan out statistically, he scores fewer points, grabs fewer rebounds, and shoots a shitty percentage (44.7) compared to Melos 48.3% from the field. Also, Barnes is a negative steals and blocks to turnovers guy, while Melo is a positive. Melo’s 30.5 ppg is great, but there is definitely reason to put Barnes here…and he probably is the better player, but Melos stats are better…and that’s what this is based off of.
Centers:
1 Celtics Brook Lopez C 29 7'0'' 266 B C C A- A- C
Though he may not have the best ratings in the league, Lopez gets the nod as the best Center in the league, he isn’t going to wow you with overwhelming numbers, like most centers, however, 20.5 points 12 boards is pretty sick, and he chips in 3.7 blocks and 1.1 steals to only 1.5 tunovers a game. His FT shooting is what really puts him over the top, there arent many big men in the league who you would look to get the ball at the end of a close game, Lopez though is your first option. 92% from the FT line as a big man? That’s amazing. He was DPOY last year, and can get you 20 a game if not more, this year was his lowest scoring output since his rookie year. Multiple time 1st team Center.
2 76ers Sean O'Mara C 21 7'1'' 308 B+ C- D+ B A- B
Sean O’mara is a very coveted player in the league…I should know, Ive tried to get him at least twice a week since he was drafted. He is a very well balanced player, and the best post scorer of the three or so it would seem. However, he doesn’t defend as well statistically or ratings wise. He is a slightly better FT shooter though than Gasol, but far worse than Lopez still, and Gasol is a better rebounder. While I focused mainly on performance, . After remembering to look at FT attempts…O’Mara goes ahead of Gasol as he gets to the line to shoot 8 a game, and getting opposing bigs in foul trouble is always nice.
3 Magic Marc Gasol C 32 7'1'' 271 A- C- C A- A- C
Marc Gasol falls third behind Lopez and O’Mara but he really isn’t any worse…as a matter of fact, the top 3 are all easily interchangeable, they all score well, and are monster defensive players. Gasol is the best rebounder of the three, but he also scored the fewest points. His defensive stats are even with Lopez, though he does turn it over a bit more. I put him below because unlike Lopez, Gasol, isn’t a top 10 FT shooter in the league, and O’Mara gets to the line more than him.
4 Heat Dwight Howard C 31 6'11'' 255 B+ C- C A+ A+ D
Dwight Howard represents the big drop off from the top 3 to #4. He is obviously an elite defensive player, with A+ in Defense and rebounding, however, offensively Dwight is far worse than the first three. Shooting a disappointing 42.6% and only scoring 15.1 points per game. He is the best rebounded in the league, though he ended up ranked second best behind Ibaka he was on a team with LeBron James and Amir Johnson, both of whom are also excellent rebounders. His biggest weakness outside his offense is the fact that he turns the ball over more than the rest. However, his 3.8 blocks and 1.8 steals definitely make up for that, and he is a pretty nice passer…at least he has been over his career,, he dropped off this year, I assume this can be attributed to a non option status.
5 Knicks Martynas Andriuskevicius C 31 7'2'' 240 B C C+ B- A D
Martynas ends up on this list as really there is nobody else who is deserving. He is a nice passer, and excellent defensive player, Spence revealed he had 90+post D, so even if his Defensive rating is a bit disappointing, he is a very nice defender. His rebounding is top tier, but his offense has dropped off tthis year, both points wise and Field goal percentage wise. He blocks and steals slightly worse than Dwight, but also commits slightly fewer turnovers. 15 points 13.6 rebounds 3.1 assists 1.7 steals 3.1 blocks is nothing to scoff at.
*I find it funny that my top 6 Centers all reside in the East...sucks for me though
Power Forwards:
1 Suns Derrick Favors PF 26 6'10'' 249 A- C D B+ A- B
Derrick Favors earns the nod over Currybecause he is a better scorer, and that is a very valuable asset. Well, that and the fact that he is a 27 point 13.6 rebound Post player who can chip in a good 3 blocks and a steal each night. His turnovers aren’t amazingly low, but as a stud scoring first option big, 1.9 is nothing to be upset about, its fine. Honestly, if I had to decide a downside, its that he isn’t an amazing FT shooter I guess, and he isn’t a great passer…neither of which is a big deal. He gets to the foul liine more than any other player in the league, and of course that hurts the other team in more than just easier chances at the line, getting opposing PF’s in foul trouble can make a big difference.
2 FA (Celtics) Eddy Curry C 34 7'0" 294 B C- D- B+ A- D
Curry gets the nod at #2 over Jonas. Despite being 34 years old he is a superb player. He has always had low ratings, however, he may be the best big man the league has seen. His scoring is amazing, his rebounding is outstanding 24 .1 points 13.5 rebounds 45 games into the season (Spence hasn’t updated the player pages, or history so I only have the old stuff to go by). He is an excellent shot blocker, and does not turn the ball over at all. On the downside he is an average FT shooter, but he gets to the line second most in the league., and he cant pass for shit. It would have been foul problems, but he has apparently completely gotten past those this year, with 0 foul outs, and 38 mpg through 45 this year which is tough to do as a big.
3 Clippers Jonas Valanciunas SF 24 6'11'' 260 A- B C+ B+ A B
Jonas may be listed at SF, but he played PF for the Clippers and is a true big, except for his big weakness, he cant block or steal. However, he has range out to three, which is useful, and is an excellent Rebounder. His big standout though is his 4.1 assists per game out of the PF spot, quite impressive. If he could reign in his turnovers, he would move up this list, but his poor steals+blocks to turnovers as a big man holds him back. 27.6 points 13.3 boards 4.1 assists is nothing to scoff at though and earns him the 3rd best PF mark.
4 Hawks Blake Griffin PF 28 6'10'' 260 A- C- C B+ A B
Offensively Griffin is quite good, however, his best attribute is that he is an amazing rebounder pulling down 13.8 a game. He does block shots and steal but, his 2.4 turnovers a game hold him back, as he only has a +1 steals and blocks to turnovers ratio. His Ft shooting is not stellar either, but at #4 you cant ask for a player to be perfect. 22 points 13.8 rebounds is great out of a starting big.
5 Lakers Amare Stoudemire PF 34 7'0'' 253 A- C- C A- B+ C
Amare loses to Blake Griffin, but honestly I should probably put this as a tie for fourth. He is a far better shot blocker, at 3.8 a game, and reigns in his turnovers better, on the other hand, his scoring is worse, percentage and points wise, and he is a good 2 rebounds a game worse overall. I didn’t want to take the cheap way out and go with a tie, so I decided to just go with who I would rather have for a season, and as good as steals and blocks to turnovers are, the offensive efficiency and rebounds make me like Blake more.
Small Forwards
1 76ers Gerald Wallace SF 35 6'7'' 227 A C+ D A- B- D
Even at 35 Gerald Wallace still has it going for him. He took a slight step back this year…his rebounding was worse, however, 33.2 points 7.2 rebounds 1.9 steals 1.8 blocks is amazing…AND he shot 53.3% from the field. His FT shooting is still great, though his three point shooting is quite sub par. He doesn’t pass well at all, but his handles are amazing as a number one option, and that earns him the nod over perry Jones and LeBron James. Gerald is near the end of his rope, but I just don’t see how you can deny his being the best SF in the league…and possibly the best player.
2 Heat LeBron James SF 32 6'9'' 243 A A B+ B B+ D
I struggled a lot with this next decision, I badly wanted to put Perry over LeBron, however, LeBrons amazing scoring, and especially his shooting percentages made me give him the nod. 50.4% from the field 87.7%from the line and 40.8% from three is amazing, add in the fact that he is a 32.4 ppg guy, 8.4 rebounds, 4.7 assists a game player. He struggles with turnovers, at 2.9 a game, but he does make it up with 2.1 steals and 1.1 blocks each night. A A scoring is crazy too.
3 Bulls Perry Jones SF 26 7'0'' 230 A- A- B A B B
Perry Jones falls third on this list, surprising for sure, but, he is still 26, so if this were a trade value he would easily be at the top. He may be the most well rounded player in the league, even more so than LeBron, since he is an A defender, and a better rebounder, and got more assists this past year. His scoring isn’t on par, as he shoots just 47.2% from the field and only scored 27.8 a game..(lol at just and only but in comparison to the first two they sucks), however he has a better steals+blocks to turnover ratio (2.6-2 vs. 3.2 to 2.9 )than LeBron, which makes him the more well rounded player, just overall LeBron is more dominant in his best area than Jones is better in his.. The top three at this position is stronger overall than any other, all three players are MVP quality.
4 Lakers Michael Gilchrist SF 24 6'7'' 199 B+ A C A B+ B
Actually, Gilchrist could be as well, if he wasn’t on a lakers team with 4 20+ ppg scorers, it makes it tough to standout. He didn’t have as good of an overall FG% as Perry, however, he has a better FT% and 3 point percentage, and is an amazing rebounder, 9.3 a game. He also has a better steals and blocks to turnovers ratio, 1.9-1.3, but, he just hasn’t shown he can shoulder the scoring load, even if I would bet he could, and while he is a great defender, his passing numbers would seem to me to be a bit inflated by all the scoring options around him. I cant say I would take him over Perry, or any of the others above him for one year, but 26.2 points 9.3 rebounds 3.4 assists is quite impressive.
5 Warriors Carmelo Anthony SF 33 6'8'' 240 B+ A- C B- C+ C
Melo honestly probably shouldn’t be on this list…Harrison Barnes is every bit the player that should be here, he is far better defensively, a better rebounder, and has sick scoring ratings too, thing is…it just doesn’t pan out statistically, he scores fewer points, grabs fewer rebounds, and shoots a shitty percentage (44.7) compared to Melos 48.3% from the field. Also, Barnes is a negative steals and blocks to turnovers guy, while Melo is a positive. Melo’s 30.5 ppg is great, but there is definitely reason to put Barnes here…and he probably is the better player, but Melos stats are better…and that’s what this is based off of.
