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Post by Skillz on Dec 3, 2009 19:50:28 GMT -5
I know, he just looks a lot sexier.
B B- B- A D+ B looks awesome
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Post by ashes on Dec 3, 2009 19:53:59 GMT -5
Heh
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Post by ashes on Dec 3, 2009 19:54:24 GMT -5
I'm liking my team after this sim. Think I may have found a good DC to go with.
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Post by Jeff on Dec 3, 2009 19:55:55 GMT -5
After an outside increase and move to Pg, Dumars looks incredible. I'll move Isiah back to PG so his d goes up and we'll be good. Isiah's played an awesome SG and his to's are down to 3. Oakley is doing 11/14, he's an incredible rebounder Bird is doing 30/7/5, but he has randomly bad off-games Isiah is doing 18/6/7, 3.1 to's on 48% Dumars is doing 15/7/2 stls on 50% Good stuff so far His defense is the same no matter what position he's at. Nothing changes but an aesthetic letter grade. Wouldn't his ability to guard PG's be better though?
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Post by ashes on Dec 3, 2009 20:01:51 GMT -5
His defense is the same no matter what position he's at. Nothing changes but an aesthetic letter grade. Wouldn't his ability to guard PG's be better though? His ability to guard PGs is the same, even if you put him at C. You see a reflection of what his defense really is at which position, but the number ratings do not change.
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Post by ashes on Dec 3, 2009 20:02:50 GMT -5
Changing positions during the season does nothing but inform you of what position they defend best and fuck up rebounding. It does not change how they guard players.
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Post by Jeff on Dec 3, 2009 20:03:24 GMT -5
Wouldn't his ability to guard PG's be better though? His ability to guard PGs is the same, even if you put him at C. You see a reflection of what his defense really is at which position, but the number ratings do not change. Yeah, that's obvious. You pretty much just made my point. The letter reflects the players ability to defend that position.
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Post by ashes on Dec 3, 2009 20:05:47 GMT -5
His ability to guard PGs is the same, even if you put him at C. You see a reflection of what his defense really is at which position, but the number ratings do not change. Yeah, that's obvious. You pretty much just made my point. The letter reflects the players ability to defend that position. Uh, what? You said wouldn't his ability be better by moving him to PG. No, it is not better. It is the same. His rating looks nicer. That's it. I didn't prove your point, you didn't even understand it.
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Post by Jeff on Dec 3, 2009 20:09:14 GMT -5
Yeah, that's obvious. You pretty much just made my point. The letter reflects the players ability to defend that position. Uh, what? You said wouldn't his ability be better by moving him to PG. No, it is not better. It is the same. His rating looks nicer. That's it. I didn't prove your point, you didn't even understand it. Wait what? My point was, Dumars ability to defend the PG position is better than his ability to defend the SG position. Hence the change in his letter grade. Obviously his actual number ratings don't increase by changing his positions. So yes, I do understand.
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Post by ashes on Dec 3, 2009 20:12:58 GMT -5
Then your response was unwarranted. I made no point debating that. I just said it didn't matter which position he was at on the roster, because he still plays defense the same at that position.
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Post by Jeff on Dec 3, 2009 20:22:21 GMT -5
Then your response was unwarranted. I made no point debating that. I just said it didn't matter which position he was at on the roster, because he still plays defense the same at that position. I just said you proved my point/what I was saying? I'm not sure why you jumped on the defensive?
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Post by ashes on Dec 3, 2009 20:30:00 GMT -5
Then your response was unwarranted. I made no point debating that. I just said it didn't matter which position he was at on the roster, because he still plays defense the same at that position. I just said you proved my point/what I was saying? I'm not sure why you jumped on the defensive? Ok. I say "It doesn't matter what position he's listed at, he plays defense the same." You say "Wouldn't his ability to guard PGs be better though?" No, in that context it is not better. It is the same! You asked me that question and the answer is no. The question was never: "Does he guard PGs better?" Yes, he does. That is something different. We know his ability is better. I said it doesn't matter what he's listed at, he guards PGs the same, granted that his best position to guard, it still had nothing to do with defense, only the fact that changing positions doesn't actually change anything.
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Post by Jeff on Dec 3, 2009 20:40:32 GMT -5
I just said you proved my point/what I was saying? I'm not sure why you jumped on the defensive? Ok. I say "It doesn't matter what position he's listed at, he plays defense the same." You say "Wouldn't his ability to guard PGs be better though?" No, in that context it is not better. It is the same! You asked me that question and the answer is no. The question was never: "Does he guard PGs better?" Yes, he does. That is something different. We know his ability is better. I said it doesn't matter what he's listed at, he guards PGs the same, granted that his best position to guard, it still had nothing to do with defense, only the fact that changing positions doesn't actually change anything. Jesus you're making a big deal out of nothing. All I meant was that his ability to guard PG's would be better in comparison to his ability to guard SG's. I'm sorry I didn't spell out the entire thing for you. I thought you would get the gist of what I was talking about. I'm not going to get into a debate about the in's and out's of FBB with you. I understand that ratings do not change when you move a players position, it just shows their ability to guard said position. As in the case of Dumars, his current ratings allow him to be a better defender at the PG position than at the SG position.
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Post by ashes on Dec 3, 2009 20:44:29 GMT -5
We know his ability to guard PGs is better. God, that's the whole point of what I just said. WE KNOW THAT. I never said otherwise. You quoted me asking your question, so maybe I should've said, "Yes, his ability to guard PGs is better than guarding SGs, but that has nothing to do with what I just said."
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Post by ashes on Dec 3, 2009 20:47:48 GMT -5
Look, all I was saying is he can be listed at SG with A- defense and play the PG position, he will still play A quality defense. I was just saying, you responded to my point with the incorrect question, because the answer would be no. If you wanted to randomly just point out that he plays defense better a PG, you could have just said that.
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