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Post by aar on Jun 16, 2012 13:56:22 GMT -5
Not trading Gervin for Tree is crazy talk
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Post by brophdog88 on Jun 16, 2012 13:56:22 GMT -5
in the end it doesnt matter what I think Tree, Bobby, Bill, Fryer, Kermit are worth, it matters what other GM's think he is worth...I can not trade the guy sure, but, my opinion doesnt matter since I already have him
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Post by brophdog88 on Jun 16, 2012 13:56:39 GMT -5
Not trading Gervin for Tree is crazy talk almost read that backwards |
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Post by brophdog88 on Jun 16, 2012 13:57:45 GMT -5
and look, I have no belief that Tree is going to keep up these numbers, he cant, no way can he go 50+% and 22 a game as a non option outside all season, but, he is showing he can score, and it appears he improved in TC more. He has no real weakness now
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Post by brophdog88 on Jun 16, 2012 13:58:39 GMT -5
if he had KAJ's jumping he would have A inside no doubt
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Post by brophdog88 on Jun 16, 2012 14:00:12 GMT -5
if he had KAJ's athleticism (quickness does matter though, so this is a bit misleading)
I would bet on A C D+ A A- easy
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Post by greeme on Jun 16, 2012 14:09:24 GMT -5
Not trading Gervin for Tree is crazy talk It is more about how I want to build a team I don't like bigs that score Would rather have bigs in the 10-12 ppg than over 20 Truth is that tree is nothing great on the boards and has started slowly with the blocks this year |
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Post by brophdog88 on Jun 16, 2012 14:16:58 GMT -5
started slowly, but is averaging 2 a game already, he had elite shotblocking, no way that just disappeared, in two seasons and he is a great post Defender, rebounding 11.3 shots a game on the 2nd best rebounding team in the league, So he isnt hurting me there
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Post by greeme on Jun 16, 2012 14:17:14 GMT -5
Age plays a huge part in value Too much IMO |
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Post by Jordan on Jun 16, 2012 14:19:32 GMT -5
lol. 28 ppg on 48% shooting isn't elite? completely depends on how you define elite |
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Post by Jordan on Jun 16, 2012 14:20:28 GMT -5
but Mengelt at PG is still a top 2 player at the position But if we're talking value, there is no way people would rather Mengelt over the other guys. Mengelt even at 29 will already be called "old" in trade talks lol this is why i traded dr j |
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Post by brophdog88 on Jun 16, 2012 14:20:39 GMT -5
top 10 in the league in scoring on sick percentages qualifies as elite I would think
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Post by greeme on Jun 16, 2012 14:23:10 GMT -5
started slowly, but is averaging 2 a game already, he had elite shotblocking, no way that just disappeared, in two seasons and he is a great post Defender, rebounding 11.3 shots a game on the 2nd best rebounding team in the league, So he isnt hurting me there Yeah doubt it disappeared But he is no better than say Kelley So the difference bw them is offense And while there is no doubt that tree is much better the question is who takes the shots that Kelley doesn't If the shots are taken by gervin for instance than the question is does the offensive superiority of tree for the amount of shots taken by Kelley outweigh the offensive superiority of gervin for the shots taken by tree less the shots taken by Kelley (assuming gervin takes the shots) |
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Post by Jordan on Jun 16, 2012 14:23:42 GMT -5
the 10th best scorer is not elite imo
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Post by Jordan on Jun 16, 2012 14:24:42 GMT -5
hes certainly in the conversation though... i didnt think hed put up 28ppg this year since the only years he scored a lot is when i didnt have anyone else that should be more than a #3 option
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