Post by Juju Erving on May 31, 2012 21:52:46 GMT -5
1. Phoenix Suns - Jack Sikma C 6'11'' 230 22 C+ B D+ B B+ A
Post TC - 238 Jack Sikma C 22 6'11'' 230 B- B D B B+ A
I was so sure Lawz was going to pick Bernard so this pick definitely came as a surprise to me. Sikma had a net of 0 because of his decrease in handle but that probably isn't a huge deal. The jump to B- inside is very nice. Sikma is obviously a work in progress that will need RCs, ACs and a little bit of luck to shed the stigma of outside bigs in FBB.
2. Boston Celtics - Bernard King SF 6'7'' 205 20 A- C D+ C C A
349 Bernard King SF 20 6'7'' 205 A- C D+ C+ C+ A
Not a super eventful training camp, but truth be told I'm just happy something happened. Going from the dreaded C rating to C+ in both defense and rebounding gives me hope that King will continue to develop in those categories. Of course I wish I got one of those C+s in outside shooting instead but I can't be greedy.
3. Houston Rockets - Marques Johnson SF 6'7'' 218 21 B+ C+ C B- C A
243 Marques Johnson SF 21 6'7'' 218 B+ B C B C B
+2 outside and +1 defense is nothing to snear at. The drop in scouted sucks but I would think Jordan is content with this training camp. I personally didn't have Johnson 3rd on my list but that being said he looks better than the couple of guys I had ahead of him other than Birdsong.
4. Indiana Pacers - Michael Cooper SG 6'5'' 170 21 C+ C+ C+ B C+ A
331 Michael Cooper SF 21 6'5'' 170 B B- B- B+ C+ A
Major +5 TC here. Excellent pick by Biggie/nice call by Pole to trade for him. I still don't think Coop is going to develop into one of the best players in the league or anything but this start is undeniable.
5. Washington Wizards - Cedric Maxwell SF 6'8'' 205 21 B+ C C- B- C+ A
285 Cedric Maxwell SF 21 6'8'' 205 B+ C C- B- C+ B
Obvious Ced had a disappointing training camp. The notes pretty much guarantee Ced will be staying in the league for a long time with his post scoring and steal/block capabilities so this pick was fine.. I just didn't have him 5. Would like to see if there is any improvement in defense rating at the 4 since Spence said his post defense is good.
6. Dallas Mavericks - Walter Davis SG 6'6'' 193 23 B B C+ C+ D+ A
347 Walter Davis SG 23 6'6'' 193 B B+ C+ B- D B
Decent training camp by Walter but if I were to pick a wing at this pick it would have been Birdsong rather easily. Walter potentially having handling issues is a big deal and the fact that went -1 on his already shitty rebounding rating is a bit alarming.
7. Cleveland Cavs - Norm Nixon PG 6'2'' 170 22 C+ C+ B B+ D A
288 Norm Nixon PG 22 6'2'' 170 C+ B- A- B+ D A
Norm had a very nice +3 TC. I was very undecided on where to put him on my list. Will be interesting to see how Norm develops over the years.
8. San Antonio Spurs - Terry Tyler PF 6'7'' 215 21 B- C D+ A C+ B
255 Terry Tyler PF 21 6'7'' 215 B C D+ A B- B
Forget what Spencer says. Bingo Smith stopper is here. According to notes, Tyler is a great post defender, extremely quick and strong and also gets steals AND blocks. This guy has to be able to at least slow down Bingo, no? Nice +2 training camp by Tyler.
9. New York Knicks - Otis Birdsong SG 6'3'' 190 21 B+ B C C D+ A
365 Otis Birdsong SG 21 6'3'' 190 B+ A- C C+ D+ B
Nice pick by Skillz. I love a guard with an unusually high inside scoring rating. Now that Birdsong is sporting A- outside and also cracked the dreaded C rating in defense, this guy looks like a potential stud
10. Denver Nuggets - T.R. Dunn SG 6'4'' 192 22 B C C A- C+ A
528 T.R. Dunn SG 22 6'4'' 192 B+ C C- A C+ B
Big time pick here by Greeme. T.R. Dunn was said to be a Sonny Parker clone and after this nice training camp I can see it. +1 inside and +1 defense is very nice. No doubt Dunn will be a good starter/role player for his career.
11. Phoenix suns - Eddie Jordan PG 6'1'' 170 22 C+ C+ C+ A D+ B
406 Eddie Jordan PG 22 6'1'' 170 C+ C+ B- A D+ C
Shocked at this pick. Big time reach. I feel like it was obvious that Jordan was going to only be a solid role player. With guys like Brad Davis, Wayne Cooper, Glen Gondrezick, etc on the board, this one didn't make sense to me. Outlawz has to be feeling some type of way after a meh training camp
12. San Antonio Spurs - Wayne Cooper C 6'10'' 220 20 C+ C- D+ A- B B
263 Wayne Cooper C 20 6'10'' 220 C+ C- D+ A- B+ B
Cooper is another Bill Buntin. Bill was a guy that could get you around 12 boards and 3+ blks in his prime and those kinds of players are extremely valuable here. I don't expect much improvement in Coops ratings so the +1 in reb is gravy. Nice pick here.
13. Indiana Pacers - Mike Glenn PG 6'2'' 175 22 C+ A- C C D B
553 Mike Glenn PG 22 6'2'' 175 C+ A- C C+ D C
Just don't see the hype in this guy. Pole and few others were acting like he should have been picked top 5 or something. Underwhelming training camp certainly doesn't help but apparently his true ratings are good so I guess I'll wait and see on him
14. LA Clippers - Brad Davis PG 6'3'' 180 21 B B B C D+ B
621 Brad Davis PG 21 6'3'' 180 B B B C+ D+ B
I like this pick better than the Glenn pick really. Brad was said to be a great scorer and Spencer also pointed out that Brad had the best handles out of the PGs in the draft. His only real weakness seemed to be his D so the +1 there is clutch. Maybe with RCs and ACs he can be a starter.
15. Washington Wizards - Ray Williams PG 6'3'' 188 23 C+ C+ B A- C B
529 Ray Williams PG 23 6'3'' 188 C+ C+ B A- C B
Kind of a meh pick here but since it's pick 15 I'll start giving out passes. Definitely a # of players that I had ahead of Williams at this point and the training camp is disappointing. I doubt he'll become a solid role player at PG because Spence has said that his handles were garbage. Oh well.
16. Golden State Warriors - Kent Benson C 6'10'' 235 22 B- C- D+ B- B- A
632 Kent Benson C 22 6'10'' 235 B- C- D+ B- B- B
I was trying to get this guy all draft night. Notes basically called him a good center that can do a little bit of everything and I was intrigued. I must say that I'm disappointed in this training camp and maybe it was a blessing in disguise that I didn't get him. Not to say that he'll be garbage forever of course.
17. Chicago Bulls - Glen Gondrezick SF 6'6'' 218 22 B C C B B B
466 Glen Gondrezick SF 22 6'6'' 218 B+ C C B+ B B
Play always seems to get good players with the mid to late picks. Glen had pretty good notes so the fact that he went +1 inside and +1 defense is just gravy. Glen will be a solid bench player at worst.
18 Toronto Raptors - Eddie Johnson PG 6'2'' 180 22 B C+ B B- D B
574 Eddie Johnson PG 22 6'2'' 180 B B- B+ B D B
Huge training camp by Eddie Johnson. The +3 in outside, handling and defense suddenly makes Johnson look like he could be a player in the future. That being said he probably still sucks atm and Webb should be starting at the 1 over him lol
19 Portland Trail Blazers - Mark Landsberger PF 6'8'' 215 22 B- D D B+ A- B
328 Mark Landsberger C 22 6'8'' 215 B- D D+ B+ A C
Broph said that he needed rebounding and he got it with Mark Landsberger. The jump to A rebounding ensures that Lansberger will be a useful player for years to come. Very solid pick here.
20 New York Knicks - Bob Elliott C 6'9'' 225 22 B+ C+ D+ C+ C+ C
186 Bob Elliott PF 22 6'9'' 225 B+ C+ D+ C+ C+ D
Didn't really improve but I doubt Skillz thought he would anyway. This pick was made based off of the scoring potential that Bob Elliot was said to have. Solid pick here at 20.
21 Boston Celtics - Kenny Carr PF 6'7'' 220 22 B C D B- B+ B
344 Kenny Carr PF 22 6'7'' 220 B C D C+ A- B
Can't argue with this at pick 21. He should be solid.
22 New York Knicks - Jeff Wilkins C 6'11'' 230 22 B C- C- B B C
220 Jeff Wilkins C 22 6'11'' 230 B C- C- B- B C
Wack -1 in defense but the notes says Wilkins will be a solid player for years to come.
23 Boston Celtics - Wilson Washington PF 6'9'' 227 22 C+ C- D+ B C+ A
326 Wilson Washington PF 22 6'9'' 227 B- C- D+ B+ C+ B
Definitely ok with this. Still very raw but he has pot.
24 Cleveland Cavaliers - Tom Scheffler C 6'11'' 240 23 B D C- B- B- C
254 Tom Scheffler C 23 6'11'' 240 B D+ C- B- B- C
At least he went +1 in something
25 Atlanta Hawks - Toby Knight PF 6'9'' 210 22 A- C C- C+ C C
483 Toby Knight SF 22 6'9'' 210 A- C C- B- C C
Well he should be a good scorer off the bench. Reminds of Leonard Gray
26 Dallas Mavericks - Joe Hassett SF 6'5'' 180 22 C+ A- C B C- B
411 Joe Hassett SF 22 6'5'' 180 C+ A- C B D+ C
Doubt he's useful
27 LA Clippers - Ben Poquette PF 6'9'' 235 22 C+ C+ D+ B+ C+ B
316 Ben Poquette PF 22 6'9'' 235 C+ C+ D+ B C+ C
Meh. He can block shots so not a completely waste.
28 Indiana Pacers - Robert Reid SF 6'8'' 205 22 B C+ D+ B+ C B
213 Robert Reid SF 22 6'8'' 205 B C+ C- B C B
Solid pick late but uneventful training camp
29 Orlando Magic - Ray Epps SF 6'6'' 195 21 B- A- C C+ C B
384 Ray Epps SF 21 6'6'' 195 B- A- C C+ C C
Warriors players blowing up did not work with this pick lol
Post TC - 238 Jack Sikma C 22 6'11'' 230 B- B D B B+ A
I was so sure Lawz was going to pick Bernard so this pick definitely came as a surprise to me. Sikma had a net of 0 because of his decrease in handle but that probably isn't a huge deal. The jump to B- inside is very nice. Sikma is obviously a work in progress that will need RCs, ACs and a little bit of luck to shed the stigma of outside bigs in FBB.
2. Boston Celtics - Bernard King SF 6'7'' 205 20 A- C D+ C C A
349 Bernard King SF 20 6'7'' 205 A- C D+ C+ C+ A
Not a super eventful training camp, but truth be told I'm just happy something happened. Going from the dreaded C rating to C+ in both defense and rebounding gives me hope that King will continue to develop in those categories. Of course I wish I got one of those C+s in outside shooting instead but I can't be greedy.
3. Houston Rockets - Marques Johnson SF 6'7'' 218 21 B+ C+ C B- C A
243 Marques Johnson SF 21 6'7'' 218 B+ B C B C B
+2 outside and +1 defense is nothing to snear at. The drop in scouted sucks but I would think Jordan is content with this training camp. I personally didn't have Johnson 3rd on my list but that being said he looks better than the couple of guys I had ahead of him other than Birdsong.
4. Indiana Pacers - Michael Cooper SG 6'5'' 170 21 C+ C+ C+ B C+ A
331 Michael Cooper SF 21 6'5'' 170 B B- B- B+ C+ A
Major +5 TC here. Excellent pick by Biggie/nice call by Pole to trade for him. I still don't think Coop is going to develop into one of the best players in the league or anything but this start is undeniable.
5. Washington Wizards - Cedric Maxwell SF 6'8'' 205 21 B+ C C- B- C+ A
285 Cedric Maxwell SF 21 6'8'' 205 B+ C C- B- C+ B
Obvious Ced had a disappointing training camp. The notes pretty much guarantee Ced will be staying in the league for a long time with his post scoring and steal/block capabilities so this pick was fine.. I just didn't have him 5. Would like to see if there is any improvement in defense rating at the 4 since Spence said his post defense is good.
6. Dallas Mavericks - Walter Davis SG 6'6'' 193 23 B B C+ C+ D+ A
347 Walter Davis SG 23 6'6'' 193 B B+ C+ B- D B
Decent training camp by Walter but if I were to pick a wing at this pick it would have been Birdsong rather easily. Walter potentially having handling issues is a big deal and the fact that went -1 on his already shitty rebounding rating is a bit alarming.
7. Cleveland Cavs - Norm Nixon PG 6'2'' 170 22 C+ C+ B B+ D A
288 Norm Nixon PG 22 6'2'' 170 C+ B- A- B+ D A
Norm had a very nice +3 TC. I was very undecided on where to put him on my list. Will be interesting to see how Norm develops over the years.
8. San Antonio Spurs - Terry Tyler PF 6'7'' 215 21 B- C D+ A C+ B
255 Terry Tyler PF 21 6'7'' 215 B C D+ A B- B
Forget what Spencer says. Bingo Smith stopper is here. According to notes, Tyler is a great post defender, extremely quick and strong and also gets steals AND blocks. This guy has to be able to at least slow down Bingo, no? Nice +2 training camp by Tyler.
9. New York Knicks - Otis Birdsong SG 6'3'' 190 21 B+ B C C D+ A
365 Otis Birdsong SG 21 6'3'' 190 B+ A- C C+ D+ B
Nice pick by Skillz. I love a guard with an unusually high inside scoring rating. Now that Birdsong is sporting A- outside and also cracked the dreaded C rating in defense, this guy looks like a potential stud
10. Denver Nuggets - T.R. Dunn SG 6'4'' 192 22 B C C A- C+ A
528 T.R. Dunn SG 22 6'4'' 192 B+ C C- A C+ B
Big time pick here by Greeme. T.R. Dunn was said to be a Sonny Parker clone and after this nice training camp I can see it. +1 inside and +1 defense is very nice. No doubt Dunn will be a good starter/role player for his career.
11. Phoenix suns - Eddie Jordan PG 6'1'' 170 22 C+ C+ C+ A D+ B
406 Eddie Jordan PG 22 6'1'' 170 C+ C+ B- A D+ C
Shocked at this pick. Big time reach. I feel like it was obvious that Jordan was going to only be a solid role player. With guys like Brad Davis, Wayne Cooper, Glen Gondrezick, etc on the board, this one didn't make sense to me. Outlawz has to be feeling some type of way after a meh training camp
12. San Antonio Spurs - Wayne Cooper C 6'10'' 220 20 C+ C- D+ A- B B
263 Wayne Cooper C 20 6'10'' 220 C+ C- D+ A- B+ B
Cooper is another Bill Buntin. Bill was a guy that could get you around 12 boards and 3+ blks in his prime and those kinds of players are extremely valuable here. I don't expect much improvement in Coops ratings so the +1 in reb is gravy. Nice pick here.
13. Indiana Pacers - Mike Glenn PG 6'2'' 175 22 C+ A- C C D B
553 Mike Glenn PG 22 6'2'' 175 C+ A- C C+ D C
Just don't see the hype in this guy. Pole and few others were acting like he should have been picked top 5 or something. Underwhelming training camp certainly doesn't help but apparently his true ratings are good so I guess I'll wait and see on him
14. LA Clippers - Brad Davis PG 6'3'' 180 21 B B B C D+ B
621 Brad Davis PG 21 6'3'' 180 B B B C+ D+ B
I like this pick better than the Glenn pick really. Brad was said to be a great scorer and Spencer also pointed out that Brad had the best handles out of the PGs in the draft. His only real weakness seemed to be his D so the +1 there is clutch. Maybe with RCs and ACs he can be a starter.
15. Washington Wizards - Ray Williams PG 6'3'' 188 23 C+ C+ B A- C B
529 Ray Williams PG 23 6'3'' 188 C+ C+ B A- C B
Kind of a meh pick here but since it's pick 15 I'll start giving out passes. Definitely a # of players that I had ahead of Williams at this point and the training camp is disappointing. I doubt he'll become a solid role player at PG because Spence has said that his handles were garbage. Oh well.
16. Golden State Warriors - Kent Benson C 6'10'' 235 22 B- C- D+ B- B- A
632 Kent Benson C 22 6'10'' 235 B- C- D+ B- B- B
I was trying to get this guy all draft night. Notes basically called him a good center that can do a little bit of everything and I was intrigued. I must say that I'm disappointed in this training camp and maybe it was a blessing in disguise that I didn't get him. Not to say that he'll be garbage forever of course.
17. Chicago Bulls - Glen Gondrezick SF 6'6'' 218 22 B C C B B B
466 Glen Gondrezick SF 22 6'6'' 218 B+ C C B+ B B
Play always seems to get good players with the mid to late picks. Glen had pretty good notes so the fact that he went +1 inside and +1 defense is just gravy. Glen will be a solid bench player at worst.
18 Toronto Raptors - Eddie Johnson PG 6'2'' 180 22 B C+ B B- D B
574 Eddie Johnson PG 22 6'2'' 180 B B- B+ B D B
Huge training camp by Eddie Johnson. The +3 in outside, handling and defense suddenly makes Johnson look like he could be a player in the future. That being said he probably still sucks atm and Webb should be starting at the 1 over him lol
19 Portland Trail Blazers - Mark Landsberger PF 6'8'' 215 22 B- D D B+ A- B
328 Mark Landsberger C 22 6'8'' 215 B- D D+ B+ A C
Broph said that he needed rebounding and he got it with Mark Landsberger. The jump to A rebounding ensures that Lansberger will be a useful player for years to come. Very solid pick here.
20 New York Knicks - Bob Elliott C 6'9'' 225 22 B+ C+ D+ C+ C+ C
186 Bob Elliott PF 22 6'9'' 225 B+ C+ D+ C+ C+ D
Didn't really improve but I doubt Skillz thought he would anyway. This pick was made based off of the scoring potential that Bob Elliot was said to have. Solid pick here at 20.
21 Boston Celtics - Kenny Carr PF 6'7'' 220 22 B C D B- B+ B
344 Kenny Carr PF 22 6'7'' 220 B C D C+ A- B
Can't argue with this at pick 21. He should be solid.
22 New York Knicks - Jeff Wilkins C 6'11'' 230 22 B C- C- B B C
220 Jeff Wilkins C 22 6'11'' 230 B C- C- B- B C
Wack -1 in defense but the notes says Wilkins will be a solid player for years to come.
23 Boston Celtics - Wilson Washington PF 6'9'' 227 22 C+ C- D+ B C+ A
326 Wilson Washington PF 22 6'9'' 227 B- C- D+ B+ C+ B
Definitely ok with this. Still very raw but he has pot.
24 Cleveland Cavaliers - Tom Scheffler C 6'11'' 240 23 B D C- B- B- C
254 Tom Scheffler C 23 6'11'' 240 B D+ C- B- B- C
At least he went +1 in something
25 Atlanta Hawks - Toby Knight PF 6'9'' 210 22 A- C C- C+ C C
483 Toby Knight SF 22 6'9'' 210 A- C C- B- C C
Well he should be a good scorer off the bench. Reminds of Leonard Gray
26 Dallas Mavericks - Joe Hassett SF 6'5'' 180 22 C+ A- C B C- B
411 Joe Hassett SF 22 6'5'' 180 C+ A- C B D+ C
Doubt he's useful
27 LA Clippers - Ben Poquette PF 6'9'' 235 22 C+ C+ D+ B+ C+ B
316 Ben Poquette PF 22 6'9'' 235 C+ C+ D+ B C+ C
Meh. He can block shots so not a completely waste.
28 Indiana Pacers - Robert Reid SF 6'8'' 205 22 B C+ D+ B+ C B
213 Robert Reid SF 22 6'8'' 205 B C+ C- B C B
Solid pick late but uneventful training camp
29 Orlando Magic - Ray Epps SF 6'6'' 195 21 B- A- C C+ C B
384 Ray Epps SF 21 6'6'' 195 B- A- C C+ C C
Warriors players blowing up did not work with this pick lol