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Post by Haberino on Apr 29, 2012 20:49:10 GMT -5
and I laugh at the no risk of decline for Kermit, its very possible he is at or near his peak...Spencer starts guys with 100/90/85, with his notes, odds are extremely high Kermit started with 85, which means his potential is around a 70 right now what is it with you and the pessimism about young guys who've already had big gains? |
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Post by brophdog88 on Apr 29, 2012 20:51:39 GMT -5
and I laugh at the no risk of decline for Kermit, its very possible he is at or near his peak...Spencer starts guys with 100/90/85, with his notes, odds are extremely high Kermit started with 85, which means his potential is around a 70 right now what is it with you and the pessimism about young guys who've already had big gains? How did Bobby Jones going up Outside and Rebounding become a big gain? and as for Kermit, Potential is entirely predictable for older players, for 18/19 its the completely unpredictable, but, it doesnt stay, nor gain for 22 year olds coming out, and Spencers notes said this What makes Kermit project as a role player? Never gonna be an elite scorer? Yup. |
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Post by brophdog88 on Apr 29, 2012 20:54:10 GMT -5
except in what, two years, Kermit is going to cost a max in all likelihood or be gone, he isnt near the player Hayes is right now....and as for Window that doesnt change at all, well, it moves it up. except something i accounted for? ok, lololol this is believing Kermit will become his best case though, which is extremely unlikely |
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Post by brophdog88 on Apr 29, 2012 20:54:41 GMT -5
and you completely ignored the leaving part
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Post by Haberino on Apr 29, 2012 20:58:03 GMT -5
except something i accounted for? ok, lololol this is believing Kermit will become his best case though, which is extremely unlikely i said 90% as good as hayes because that's a fair expectation, and not his best case scenario. washington should benefit from this +5 though, or nah? |
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Post by brophdog88 on Apr 29, 2012 20:59:39 GMT -5
true, but when Spencer says a guy wont be an elite scorer (and look at the FT's, thats a HUGE deficiency compared to Hayes), its tough to say he is gonna suddenly reach the level of one, Hayes is a better shotblocker, far better rebounder, and offensive player, Kermit has quite a ways to go
and dont think Hayes was RC'd out til this year
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Post by brophdog88 on Apr 29, 2012 20:59:59 GMT -5
could just as easy put the AC toward Hayes, so thats a bad point
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Post by brophdog88 on Apr 29, 2012 21:01:08 GMT -5
Also, I would love to see somebody max Trapp, I wouldnt touch him in a 1000 years at that price though
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Post by Haberino on Apr 29, 2012 21:01:51 GMT -5
could just as easy put the AC toward Hayes, so thats a bad point no, it isn't. not the same return on hayes, especially since washington can get the +5 midrange that hayes obviously can't get |
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Post by Haberino on Apr 29, 2012 21:02:29 GMT -5
Also, I would love to see somebody max Trapp, I wouldnt touch him in a 1000 years at that price though one could say i engaged in an unfair trade practice  |
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Post by Andrew on Apr 29, 2012 21:03:03 GMT -5
arbitrage
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Post by brophdog88 on Apr 29, 2012 21:05:14 GMT -5
could just as easy put the AC toward Hayes, so thats a bad point no, it isn't. not the same return on hayes, especially since washington can get the +5 midrange that hayes obviously can't get Hayes looks to have around 100 midrange in all likelihood with his 93% (since thats in general the cap to ft's), but it could be as low as 88, Kermit cant get that high at all, even with an AC from right now (typically FT runs about 0-5% above Jump Shot, though its better with more seasons to look at since a guy can go all Bob Lanier on you) |
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Post by brophdog88 on Apr 29, 2012 21:06:03 GMT -5
didnt see anybody wanting to max Norwood, or pay me in trades enough to get him if he was worth a max
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Post by brophdog88 on Apr 29, 2012 21:07:11 GMT -5
this is for two seasons ago when he shot 54.7%, he shouldnt be playing PF if you want high percentages
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Post by Nanz on Apr 29, 2012 21:11:30 GMT -5
A LOT of valid points being made
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