Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on Aug 7, 2011 22:55:32 GMT -5
2027 Top 10s Part 1 - PGs - Go Vote!!
Glossary:
fbb_oRtg - a player's points produced per 100 possessions used, taking into account shooting efficiency, turnover rate, and offensive rebounding. League average is 111.8.
Poss% - The percentage of a team's possessions that a player used, primarily by taking a shot, getting to the free throw line, or turning the ball over.
TS% - A true measure of shooting efficiency, similar to eFG% except it also factors in free throws. League average is 53.5%.
TO/poss - The percentage of possessions a player turned the ball over. Again, assists are not factored into possessions. League average is 11.6%.
REB% - The percentage of available rebounds a player grabbed while on the court. League average is 10%.
BLK% - Percentage of the opponents shots a player blocks. League average is .33%.
STL% - Percentage of opponents possessions that a player ends with a steal. League average is .33%.
SG Top 10 Rankings
These rankings do not take contract or age into account, only who the best players in the league are right now, at this very moment. To decide that, I've used stats primarily from this season combined with ratings and a given player's statistical history.
The SG position is the most crowded in the league at this point in terms of premier talent
1.Jacquez Knight PG 29 6'3'' 192 A- A A A- C D
-You're going to notice a recurring theme with the Hornets having guys on these lists. Knight's played at PG pretty much exclusively his entire career, but after being acquired by aar last year, he played between Hollis and Francis at the SG spot. The results were nothing short of fantastic. Knight shot the ball as well as he ever has, and shot an especially ridiculous 48%!!! from three point land. Combined with his low turnover rate and Knight was one of the most efficient scorers the league had to offer last season. Defensively it's hard to know how Knight did at SG, especially since the Hornets as a team were rather mediocre on that end, but I'm betting he did a pretty solid job there. I think the success of Knight, as well as other guys like Wall, may lead to a number of teams looking more seriously at playing PGs out of position.
2.Paul Arizin SG 29 6'5'' 203 B A B- B+ C B
-The best pure shooting guard in the league this season was a toss up between Arizin and Tracy Parker. My only real justification for ranking Arizin higher is his superior rebounding, but outside of that they're nearly identical players. Arizin will surely attract numerous MAX offers as a free agent this offseason in an absolutely stacked free agent class, but I hope to see him re-sign with the Spurs as they're going to be in deep, deep trouble if he leaves them. I'm not sure what a perfect SG would look like, but I have to imagine it's pretty close to Paul Arizin.
3.Tracy Parker SG 28 6'6'' 212 B+ A B- A- C C
-You can expect to see Parker in these list's top 5 for the foreseeable future. He shoots the ball as well as anyone, has improved his rebounding it seems, and does a solid, if unspectacular, job defensively. The Nets were a very dangerous team this year offensively thanks to their back court duo of Parker and Mack, who formed one of the best shooting pairs in the league. There isn't that much I can say about Parker that isn't obvious, pretty much everything said about Arizin applies to him (pretty sure I said this last season), and outside of the slightly subpar rebounding he's as complete of a SG as you'll find in the league.
4.Omar Green SG 25 6'8'' 183 B- A+ D A- C- C
-Omar came over to the Eastern Conference with a good deal of hype after his dominant scoring performances in Memphis. His performance in Orlando didn't quite live up that hype however, as his percentages dipped as his volume took a big hit playing next to guys like Bobby Cook, Bob Petit, and J.J. Erving. Still, Omar's percentages were pretty damn good, his rebounding was mildly improved, and his steal rate was as good as any SG out there. The turnovers are a little higher, though livable, and his rebounding is definitely a handicap, but as far as scorers go, you aren't going to find a lot better than Green. With Erving shipped out of town, I'd expect his volume to increase again this year as well.
5.Mitchell Jordan SG 32 6'6'' 228 B+ A C C+ C- C
-Poor Mitchell Jordan, wasting away on the Thunder who were desperately trying to move him but couldn't find any suitors. Unfortunately for Jordan, his contract makes him a little tougher to move than he should be, because he's an excellent player on the offensive end. Despite his age, he can still put up volume with the best of them, and put it up on damned good efficiency. I don't know that he can be the best player on a championship team, but I do think he can be the best scorer. His defense certainly leaves something to be desired, but he picks up some blocks and steals to help make up for his lack of man to man d. I hope to see him on a contender next season, because I think he can still have a big impact on a winning squad.
6.Austin Rivers PG 34 6'4'' 191 B- A+ C+ A- C- C
-Austin Rivers found his way to Miami in one of the stranger series of deals I've seen since joining the league. Insane's odd reasoning aside, Rivers is still a damned fine player, albeit more suited for SG now than the PG position he's still listed at. He put up big numbers for the Heat, forming an impressive offensive trio with Bradley Barker and J.T. Irish, but unfortunately not winning a whole lot of games. That certainly wasn't Rivers' fault however, as he shot the ball extremely well, kept his turnovers down, and picked up a respectable number of steals. His defense at the SG spot seems pretty mediocre (especially considering Miami's poor team defense), and he's not much of a rebounder, but Rivers scoring impact was more than enough of a reason for me to place him on this list.
7.Marcus Jay SG 27 6'5'' 211 B- A+ D+ B C+ D
-Marcus Jay has been a bit of an enigma since joining the league. His A+ outside shooting historically came with some great percentages on a Thunder team that was loaded, but never materialized into big volume. He got typecast as a role playing shooter who couldn't do much else, and could barely find minutes in Orlando behind Omar Green, Bobby Cook, and J.J. Erving. I was thrilled to get three first round picks for him, as I had trouble convincing people he was worth anything while he was playing about 10 minutes a game and putting up a couple points on bad percentages. Combined with his big contract, and Jay seemed like a guy who didn't have a ton of value. Still, the Heat paid a solid price for him, but then after a few mediocre sims, decided to move him for the older but more accomplished Austin Rivers. Denver in the meantime, got one hell of a player. Since that trade Jay put up HUGE scoring numbers, doing so on solid percentages and leading the Nuggets to a playoff birth. He's been one of my favorite players in the league for a while, glad to see him having success somewhere.
8.Quentin Derrick PG 34 5'7'' 160 B A- A- A C D
-QD is definitely a PG, but I've got him on this list because he spent the vast majority of his time this season at the SG spot similar to Jacquez Knight. He's not the best shooter on this list, but he's still well above average in that regard, and his volume is high but not off the charts. The thing that really helps separate QD is his turnover rate, which isn't surprising as he's a guy who regularly plays PG and should be able to limit turnovers at SG. He's also a surprisingly solid rebounder for a natural PG, and his steal rate is among the best in the league. QD is just a solid all around player, there isn't anything about him that I can even imagine complaining about, other than his age.
9.Ben Rollins SG 30 6'5'' 221 A B+ C B C+ C
-Meh. Rollins makes this list because of his ridiculous volume. Efficiency wise though, he's subpar as far as SGs go, and it isn't a coincedence that the Knicks offense actually started scoring less when they exchanged Smith for him. Still, his efficiency isn't awful, and his volume can't be ignored. He's certainly capable of putting a team on his back and carrying them to respectability, but I just don't know that he's a guy who can be a first option on a championship team.
10.Nehemiah Harrison SG 27 6'2'' 193 A- A+ C- C+ D C
-I have pretty mixed feelings on Harrison. In some regards, he's a disappointment to me. He's such a good shooter, perhaps the single player I'd want taking a shot for me, but there are so many other parts of the game that prevent him from being more than a face in the crowd. His turnover rate is atrocious, he doesn't rebound, and he doesn't play defense. Still a hell of an offensive player, puts up big volume, but he's just not as good as he looks on the surface.
Honorable Mention:
Si Green - Didn't put up huge volume, but I expect he'll be on this list soon.
Vince McCracken - I'm already anticipating Play's rage at me not having him top 10, but McCracken just wasn't that good this year. His offensive efficiency wasn't very good for a SG, he isn't putting up huge volume on a stacked Bulls team, and he just doesn't shine enough in any particular area to put him over the guys on this list. I don't know that I wouldn't take him over Nehemiah or Derrick, but his performance this season didn't warrant it.
Brandon Watts - The converted PF is a monster offensively and a great rebounder. With so many great SGs in this league though, his defense didn't stack up well enough to get him on the list.
Nolan McCarthy - Really efficient, put up awesome percentages.
Tanner Thompson - See McCracken. He's good, he's just not great.
Allan Avery - Solid, but nothing special.
Dishonorable Mention:
Douglas Washington - Fuck him. No but really, even with the improved ratings, his efficiency is well below average.
Hot Rod Hundley - It was his rookie year, so it's understandable that he's not ready yet, but he was real bad.
Hal Greer - See Hot Rod Hundley, except his shitty performance is more surprising with his ratings.
Glossary:
fbb_oRtg - a player's points produced per 100 possessions used, taking into account shooting efficiency, turnover rate, and offensive rebounding. League average is 111.8.
Poss% - The percentage of a team's possessions that a player used, primarily by taking a shot, getting to the free throw line, or turning the ball over.
TS% - A true measure of shooting efficiency, similar to eFG% except it also factors in free throws. League average is 53.5%.
TO/poss - The percentage of possessions a player turned the ball over. Again, assists are not factored into possessions. League average is 11.6%.
REB% - The percentage of available rebounds a player grabbed while on the court. League average is 10%.
BLK% - Percentage of the opponents shots a player blocks. League average is .33%.
STL% - Percentage of opponents possessions that a player ends with a steal. League average is .33%.
SG Top 10 Rankings
These rankings do not take contract or age into account, only who the best players in the league are right now, at this very moment. To decide that, I've used stats primarily from this season combined with ratings and a given player's statistical history.
The SG position is the most crowded in the league at this point in terms of premier talent
1.Jacquez Knight PG 29 6'3'' 192 A- A A A- C D
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 126.2 | 21.66% | 60.3% | 9.1% | 7.1% | 0.3% | 2.9% |
2.Paul Arizin SG 29 6'5'' 203 B A B- B+ C B
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 125.9 | 24.33% | 60.3% | 9.7% | 9.3% | 0.9% | 1.4% |
3.Tracy Parker SG 28 6'6'' 212 B+ A B- A- C C
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 125.6 | 25.89% | 59.6% | 9.5% | 7.0% | 0.7% | 1.7% |
4.Omar Green SG 25 6'8'' 183 B- A+ D A- C- C
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 121.6 | 23.27% | 58.8% | 11.0% | 5.2% | 0.6% | 2.7% |
5.Mitchell Jordan SG 32 6'6'' 228 B+ A C C+ C- C
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 122.4 | 27.31% | 57.3% | 8.1% | 5.6% | 1.5% | 1.7% |
6.Austin Rivers PG 34 6'4'' 191 B- A+ C+ A- C- C
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 121.3 | 27.37% | 58.7% | 9.3% | 5.0% | 0.1% | 2.0% |
7.Marcus Jay SG 27 6'5'' 211 B- A+ D+ B C+ D
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 121.4 | 24.11% | 57.7% | 9.9% | 8.0% | 0.2% | 2.0% |
8.Quentin Derrick PG 34 5'7'' 160 B A- A- A C D
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 122.8 | 25.42% | 57.4% | 7.6% | 7.8% | 0.7% | 3.1% |
9.Ben Rollins SG 30 6'5'' 221 A B+ C B C+ C
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 114.6 | 34.62% | 55.3% | 11.2% | 7.7% | 0.1% | 1.4% |
10.Nehemiah Harrison SG 27 6'2'' 193 A- A+ C- C+ D C
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 119.7 | 27.33% | 61.1% | 13.9% | 4.2% | 0.3% | 1.8% |
Honorable Mention:
Si Green - Didn't put up huge volume, but I expect he'll be on this list soon.
Vince McCracken - I'm already anticipating Play's rage at me not having him top 10, but McCracken just wasn't that good this year. His offensive efficiency wasn't very good for a SG, he isn't putting up huge volume on a stacked Bulls team, and he just doesn't shine enough in any particular area to put him over the guys on this list. I don't know that I wouldn't take him over Nehemiah or Derrick, but his performance this season didn't warrant it.
Brandon Watts - The converted PF is a monster offensively and a great rebounder. With so many great SGs in this league though, his defense didn't stack up well enough to get him on the list.
Nolan McCarthy - Really efficient, put up awesome percentages.
Tanner Thompson - See McCracken. He's good, he's just not great.
Allan Avery - Solid, but nothing special.
Dishonorable Mention:
Douglas Washington - Fuck him. No but really, even with the improved ratings, his efficiency is well below average.
Hot Rod Hundley - It was his rookie year, so it's understandable that he's not ready yet, but he was real bad.
Hal Greer - See Hot Rod Hundley, except his shitty performance is more surprising with his ratings.
