Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on Aug 7, 2011 21:30:39 GMT -5
2027 Top 10s Part 2 - SGs - Go Vote!!
Glossary:
fbb_oRtg - a player's points produced per 100 possessions used, taking into account shooting efficiency, turnover rate, and offensive rebounding. League average is 111.8.
Poss% - The percentage of a team's possessions that a player used, primarily by taking a shot, getting to the free throw line, or turning the ball over.
TS% - A true measure of shooting efficiency, similar to eFG% except it also factors in free throws. League average is 53.5%.
TO/poss - The percentage of possessions a player turned the ball over. Again, assists are not factored into possessions. League average is 11.6%.
REB% - The percentage of available rebounds a player grabbed while on the court. League average is 10%.
BLK% - Percentage of the opponents shots a player blocks. League average is .33%.
STL% - Percentage of opponents possessions that a player ends with a steal. League average is .33%.
PG Top 10 Rankings
These rankings do not take contract or age into account, only who the best players in the league are right now, at this very moment. To decide that, I've used stats primarily from this season combined with ratings and a given player's statistical history.
PG talent in general seems to be down a bit this year, but that largely seems to be due to a lot of PGs getting more time at SG, and some guys like Kyrie Irving not getting as many minutes as they deserve. Regardless, not the best season for PGs outside the top 5 this league has seen.
1.Rickey Francis PG 30 5'6'' 157 C A C C+ C D
-Surprised? No? Well, that's good, because you shouldn't be. The PG on the championship winning Hornets remains the most valuable player in the league in my eyes, shooting the ball as well as he ever has and putting up huge volume even while playing next to Knight and Hollis. He probably won't win any MVPs because of FBBs love of assists, but by the end of his career he'll have deserved a whole trophy case full of them. I could go on for a while about how amazing Francis is, but that should be pretty apparent to everyone by now. It will be interesting to see how he ages, but I expect him to be a top tier PG for the foreseeable future.
2.Bradley Barker PG 24 6'0'' 188 B- A+ A+ B+ C- B
-As I unveil these lists you'll notice the Heat have a top 10 PG, top 10 SG, and top 10 SF. Barker is the most obvious of the bunch, considered by the vast majority of the league to be one of the five most valuable players out there, and rightfully so. He still shoots the ball extremely well, he still doesn't turn it over, and he still puts up huge volume. Not much has changed from last year, but despite his elite performance, his team is still losing. It's amazing how a shitty frontcourt can sabotage one of the best scoring trios in the league, and it's a shame to see some of Bradley's best years wasted.
3.Purnell Jackson PG 24 6'7'' 210 A- B- A- B C B
-Play will immediately complain that Purnell isn't number one, after all he's coming off his second MVP. FBB of course loves assists however, and that's really the only area that Purnell has an advantage over Francis in, so I don't see how an argument can really be made there. To be honest, I don't know that I prefer Purnell to the next two guys on this list, but I know I'm in the minority on that, so I kept him in the top 3. He shoots the ball well, which is obvious with his off the charts FG%, but because his three point game is a non factor, his TS% will never touch guys like Francis, Barker, Cooper, or Mack. He does a god job of limiting turnovers, gets some steals, some rebounds, but the big draw with Purnell will always be his FG%, and to me that's a misleading stat for him.
4.Trey Mack PG 30 6'2'' 199 C A+ B- A- D+ C
-No where to be found on this list last year, Trey Mack came in and helped make the Nets legitimate contenders this season. Historically his turnover problems have been a big enough issue to suggest that he might be best suited at SG, but he seems to have figured out things in that regard this year and managed to be a huge plus on the offensive end. His shooting is as good as any PG in the league, leaving turnovers as the only thing that really separates him from the elite PGs in the league.
5.Brady Cooper PG 25 6'1'' 200 C A+ C+ C+ D D
-Skillz was always excited about Brady Cooper playing a Rickey Francis lite role, and he's settled into exactly that in San Antonio. His shooting is on par with guys like Francis, and though he doesn't put up quite the same ridiculous volume, he still puts up his fair share of points. His turnover rate is a little high, and offensively it holds him back from being a truly elite point guard, but isn't so much of a problem that any team should ever consider moving him to SG. He's pretty brutal defensively with that C+ rating, but he does pick up some steals, and if Rickey Francis can be the PG on a championship team, I don't see any reason why Brady Cooper can't do the same thing.
6.Ray McCallum PG 34 6'1'' 188 B B A- A- C- C
-The man known only as RAY! to habes is still putting up solid numbers despite clearly being past his prime. He isn't an elite point guard by any means, but he remains among the best in the league at limiting turnovers. Even more impressive is his steal rate, which is higher than any other player on this list. The combination of the two means Ray's creating some extra possessions for your team, which is one of the most valuable traits a player can have. His shooting isn't especially good, but it's not awful either, and at the end of the day the huge net positive he is in the turnover column is a big enough boost to his overall efficiency to land him on this list.
7.Bob Cousy PG 29 6'1'' 175 A- B- A A C B
-So Cousy had yet another year of huge offensive volume. The per game stats of 28-6-9 look tremendous, the 48% shooting suggests he's efficient putting the ball in the hoop, and the 2.1 steals per game aren't too shabby either. Cousy's stats are a bit of a mirage however, as the 48% shooting has led to only a mildly above average TS% (due to his inability to shoot the three ball), and his turnover rate is a bit high as well. In a league where every winning team seems to have an efficient PG at the helm, I have to question just how far a team will go with Cousy as its best offensive player. The Hawks will likely trade him soon, and I suspect they'll get more than his production is actually worth.
8.K.C. Jones PG 25 6'1'' 206 B+ A- A+ A- C B
-Statistically, K.C. does not belong on this list. Sure he puts up big volume, but he's essentially been a Cousy clone in that his efficiency hasn't been especially good (it's actually been below average). Still, last year he was better than this, and I have to think his percentages being as mediocre as they are is a pretty large function of bad luck. After he received a freebie RC and bumped his outside shooting to A- he seemed to play much, much better. If his three point shot comes around he'll move up this list, but until then he isn't the huge plus offensively that his ratings and big volume suggest he is.
9.Phil Martin PG 29 6'3'' 193 C A- C+ A+ C D
-Phil Martin is a pretty cool player. If you need a PG to put up big numbers, he's not your guy. He'll never make an all star team, and he's the type of guy who anyone but Greg would probably be pretty open to moving in a deal. If you're just looking for your PG to put up solid percentages, not turn the ball over, rebound, and play top notch defense, than Phil Martin is perfect for you. I'm really glad I can give him some recognition here because I don't think he's someone who's going to get noticed very often, but there's no doubt in my mind he's a guy who helps a team win.
10.Ethan Talley PG 24 6'5'' 193 C A+ C+ B+ D B
-Talley's had a pretty interesting career to date. Initially, he was a pretty big disappointment as a SG, he didn't really break out during his first few seasons in TC, and seemed to be nothing more than a role player. Then he got moved to PG, a pretty big risk at the time, and since that point he's become one hell of a player. As expected with anyone who's taken a -20 hit to their handles, his turnover rate isn't especially good. It isn't awful either though, and that's a testament to how high his handles must have been before the move. I figured not too many guys would be able to make that transition to PG, but it's really nice to see someone doing it effectively.
Honorable Mention:
Frank Ramsey - His turnovers a problem, though his defense and rebounding is a big plus. Overall, his offensive efficiency is average, and he's not putting up huge enough volume like Cousy/Jones to make the list over them.
Kareem Cunningham - Excellent shooter, but the turnovers are a bit of a problem, and he's brutal defensively.
Kyrie Irving - Didn't play enough minutes to land on this list, is pretty poor defensively, but offensivly is still among the best PGs in the league.
Dishonorable Mention:
Isaac Woods - Pretty disappointing year compared to last year, turnovers were a problem and while his shooting percentages look nice, his lack of 3 point shooting drags his offensive efficiency down.
Vince King - Brutal shooting the ball.
Cam Adams - Still the same guy he's always been, nice volume numbers, but the efficiency is awful.
Renato Amare - Worst starting PG in the league this side of Bob Carl when you realize how useless assists are in FBB. Amazing the Pacers made it as far as they did with him.
Bob Carl - Awful. Just Awful.
Glossary:
fbb_oRtg - a player's points produced per 100 possessions used, taking into account shooting efficiency, turnover rate, and offensive rebounding. League average is 111.8.
Poss% - The percentage of a team's possessions that a player used, primarily by taking a shot, getting to the free throw line, or turning the ball over.
TS% - A true measure of shooting efficiency, similar to eFG% except it also factors in free throws. League average is 53.5%.
TO/poss - The percentage of possessions a player turned the ball over. Again, assists are not factored into possessions. League average is 11.6%.
REB% - The percentage of available rebounds a player grabbed while on the court. League average is 10%.
BLK% - Percentage of the opponents shots a player blocks. League average is .33%.
STL% - Percentage of opponents possessions that a player ends with a steal. League average is .33%.
PG Top 10 Rankings
These rankings do not take contract or age into account, only who the best players in the league are right now, at this very moment. To decide that, I've used stats primarily from this season combined with ratings and a given player's statistical history.
PG talent in general seems to be down a bit this year, but that largely seems to be due to a lot of PGs getting more time at SG, and some guys like Kyrie Irving not getting as many minutes as they deserve. Regardless, not the best season for PGs outside the top 5 this league has seen.
1.Rickey Francis PG 30 5'6'' 157 C A C C+ C D
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 128.6 | 30.27% | 59.1% | 6.0% | 6.4% | 0.8% | 2.1% |
2.Bradley Barker PG 24 6'0'' 188 B- A+ A+ B+ C- B
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 124.4 | 30.31% | 59.6% | 7.3% | 5.2% | 0.3% | 2.6% |
3.Purnell Jackson PG 24 6'7'' 210 A- B- A- B C B
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 118.4 | 20.90% | 57.3% | 9.7% | 7.0% | 0.0% | 2.1% |
4.Trey Mack PG 30 6'2'' 199 C A+ B- A- D+ C
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 118.9 | 20.46% | 60.3% | 14.0% | 4.0% | 0.2% | 2.5% |
5.Brady Cooper PG 25 6'1'' 200 C A+ C+ C+ D D
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 119.3 | 22.90% | 59.8% | 12.6% | 3.8% | 0.2% | 2.9% |
6.Ray McCallum PG 34 6'1'' 188 B B A- A- C- C
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 114.4 | 22.71% | 54.4% | 7.5% | 5.4% | 0.3% | 3.4% |
7.Bob Cousy PG 29 6'1'' 175 A- B- A A C B
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 112 | 30.52% | 54.9% | 11.5% | 6.9% | 0.3% | 2.8% |
8.K.C. Jones PG 25 6'1'' 206 B+ A- A+ A- C B
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 110.7 | 25.06% | 52.5% | 8.0% | 7.3% | 0.6% | 1.5% |
9.Phil Martin PG 29 6'3'' 193 C A- C+ A+ C D
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 117.8 | 15.25% | 56.1% | 10.2% | 6.6% | 0.5% | 2.3% |
10.Ethan Talley PG 24 6'5'' 193 C A+ C+ B+ D B
| fbb_oRtg | Poss% | TS% | TO/poss | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 113.1 | 18.56% | 57.8% | 15.2% | 4.4% | 0.1% | 1.8% |
Honorable Mention:
Frank Ramsey - His turnovers a problem, though his defense and rebounding is a big plus. Overall, his offensive efficiency is average, and he's not putting up huge enough volume like Cousy/Jones to make the list over them.
Kareem Cunningham - Excellent shooter, but the turnovers are a bit of a problem, and he's brutal defensively.
Kyrie Irving - Didn't play enough minutes to land on this list, is pretty poor defensively, but offensivly is still among the best PGs in the league.
Dishonorable Mention:
Isaac Woods - Pretty disappointing year compared to last year, turnovers were a problem and while his shooting percentages look nice, his lack of 3 point shooting drags his offensive efficiency down.
Vince King - Brutal shooting the ball.
Cam Adams - Still the same guy he's always been, nice volume numbers, but the efficiency is awful.
Renato Amare - Worst starting PG in the league this side of Bob Carl when you realize how useless assists are in FBB. Amazing the Pacers made it as far as they did with him.
Bob Carl - Awful. Just Awful.
