Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on Jul 22, 2011 14:19:43 GMT -5
Top 10s Part 1 - PGs - GO VOTE!
Glossary:
fbb_oRtg - a player's points produced per 100 possessions used, taking into account shooting efficiency, turnover rate, and offensive rebounding. League average is 111.8.
TS% - A true measure of shooting efficiency, similar to eFG% except it also factors in free throws. League average is 53.5%.
TO% - The percentage of possessions a player turned the ball over. Again, assists are not factored into possessions. League average is 11.6%.
REB% - The percentage of available rebounds a player grabbed while on the court. League average is 10%.
BLK% - Percentage of the opponents shots a player blocks. League average is .33%.
STL% - Percentage of opponents possessions that a player ends with a steal. League average is .33%.
PF Top 10 Rankings
These rankings do not take contract or age into account, only who the best players in the league are right now, at this very moment. To decide that, I've used stats primarily from this season combined with ratings and a given player's statistical history.
I've gotta say, the PFs are probably the hardest group to rate. There are few guys who really stand out, a bunch of solid offensively but iffy defenders, and a bunch of elite defenders who are disasters on offense. Weird group to gauge, I did my best, feel free to rip into me after.
1. Stephen Flint PF 30 6'11'' 235 A- D D- A A- C
-There isn't much not to like about Stephen Flint. There's the obvious big time scoring, rebounding, and shot blocking, which will excite the vast majority of the league. He's a guy who can anchor a defense and ensure that you're not going to be outrebounded very often, and that has big time value. For me though, it's Flint's ability to limit turnovers that really helps separate him and make him a valuable player offensively. Most big men struggle with efficiency because FBB just isn't that favorable to them, but Flint manages to post above average efficiency thanks to his ability to limit turnovers. Combining that with his dominant defense and rebounding makes him a pretty elite player. Still, his TS% is only 50.9%, which is below average, so he's probably not a guy you want as your top option.
2. Bob Petit PF 24 6'9'' 211 A- C- D+ A A B
-I hesitate to put my own player this high, but Petit has some pretty special qualities. Most big men struggle to be efficient, a few manage to put up above average TS%, a few manage to keep their turnovers low, but finding a big man who does both is really rare (the next guy on the list is one of the few). Petit is one of those guys, turning the ball over just 1.0 times a game, sporting a TS% above the league average, all while posting one of the better rebounding rates in the league. The combination makes him one of the better offensive big men in the league, and while his shot blocking is pretty mediocre, his man to man defense is as good as any PFs. The thing that makes Petit special is his ability to draw fouls. He's averaging almost one free throw per two field goal attempts, meaning on around 20% of his shots he's getting fouled, a pretty impressive rate.
3. Dolph Schayes PF 28 6'8'' 200 A- C C+ B A B
-If Petit is 2, then Schayes has to be 3, as they're very, very similar players and an argument could be made either way. Like Petit, Schayes shoots the ball rather well, gets to the free throw line, converts his free throws, doesn't turn the ball over very often, and is a heck of a rebounder. If you read the above blurb on Petit, most of those same things can be said about Schayes. The biggest difference between the two is Schayes puts up slightly more volume (and needs to for the Suns), is mildly more turnover prone, isn't quite the rebounder Petit is, and his man to man defense isn't elite. All in all though, the margin is pretty small, and any team would be happy to have a guy like Schayes up front, he's just a quality all around ball player.
4. Jayson O'Keane PF 26 6'8'' 248 A C+ D+ C B+ D
-Sorry about that aar! O'Keane really could rank in a number of places on this list, it's really all about team need. Ironically, New Orleans might be one of the few teams that really doesn't have much of a need for a guy like him, already having the elite scoring punch of Francis and Hollis. O'Keane is one of the few bigs in the league who deserves to be an option, he puts up an excellent TS% and scores in big volume while doing it. Offensively his only draw back is the turnovers are a little bit high, but you can live with that knowing he's shooting a better percentage than any other big out there. Defensively is an entirely different story, though at the very least he does block some shots. If your team needs some scoring punch, there aren't a lot of bigs you'd rather have than O'Keane.
5. Tyrone Keane PF 27 7'0'' 257 B+ B+ C A+ B B
-His FG% is pretty low at the moment, even for a PF. Thanks to his ability to draw fouls and shoot the 3 ball however, his TS% is 51.1%, which while still below average, is bearable. His turnover rate is sub par as well, and his rebounding is actually pretty bad for a PF. Offensively, as PFs go, he's clearly been below average. What gets him on this list is his defense is flat out dominant, and his impact on the Knicks defense can not be overlooked. Despite a number of poor defenders, the Knicks sport one of the better defenses in the league, in large part thanks to Keane. While his offense isn't helping them much at the moment, it isn't killing them either, and at the end of the day his net impact is a big positive. His ratings and history also suggest he'll start shooting the ball better in the near future, and when that starts happening watch out.
6. Koni Bruton PF 27 6'9'' 237 B C C B+ A C
-Bruton is on this list for two simple reasons; defense, and rebounding. Offensively this guy is a pretty big disaster, he's inefficient shooting the ball and turns the ball over far too much for a guy handling it as little as he does. On the plus side, he seems to know he's a shitty offensive player, and doesn't use too many possessions, which to me is a big positive (there's nothing worse than the guy who sucks, but thinks he's good and takes far too many shots. I'm looking at you Antoine Walker). With that said, Bruton is a fantastic rebounder, behind only Petit on this list, and is up there with Keane as one of the premier defensive power forwards. The Hawks have been winning a lot of games, and while a lot of people will look at the gaudy numbers of Bob Cousy, Bruton's been the reason their defense has been dominant, and their defense is the reason they're winning games.
7. DeMarcus Cousins PF 35 6'11'' 266 B+ C- D+ B A- C
-I had a tough time deciding whether I'd rank Cousins below or above Keane/Bruton. Cousins is certainly the more rounded player, the better offensive player, but dominant big man defense goes a long way in FBB, and ultimately I don't know that too many GMs would prefer Cousins to Keane/Bruton even for just this season. With that said, it's important to note just how big of an impact he's had on the Clippers. When he went down with an injury, the Clippers were struggling mightily to outscore their opponents, sporting a point differential of more than -2 per game. Since Cousins has returned, the Clippers have found new life, and have gone from a team that looked destined for a mid lotto pick, to a team half a game out of the playoffs and primed to give a top seed a tough 1st round. How much of that is due to Cousins is debatable, but the simple fact is he's one of the more efficient PFs in the league thanks to his ability to draw fouls and his refusal to turn the ball over. He's not an elite rebounder or defender, but he's a damn good one. He really doesn't have any holes.
8. Blake Griffin PF 37 6'10'' 260 B+ C- C B+ A- C
-He may be 37, and he may not be the player he once was, but Blake Griffin is still an upper echelon PF. When Andy extended Griffin a lot of eyebrows were raised over the length of the contract, but it sure looks like Andy knew what he was doing. There's very little doubt in my mind that Griffin will be a quality starting power forward until the day he retires. He's efficient scoring the basketball, keeps his turnovers under control, is a quality shot blocker, and is still an elite rebounder. There's nothing not to like about Griffin, he's been a huge part of the Piston's success, even if he hasn't been doing it with huge volume numbers.
9. Juno Tremont PF 26 6'9'' 224 A C+ C A- B+ C
-The much discussed Juno Tremont has seen his share of criticism, much of it coming from my direction. This season Tremont has taken a step forward however, finally combining his volume with solid efficiency. His percentages aren't through the roof, and there isn't exactly anything about him that is exceptional aside from his volume, making him the Bob Cousy of PFs to some extent, but at the very least Tremont is going to impact a team in a positive manner, and that couldn't always be said about him. It will be interesting to see who he's playing for next season, but regardless of where he is, his team will be happy to have him.
10. Randy Sinclair PF 26 7'0'' 221 A- C- C A B+ B
-Sinclair is an interesting case. Offensively he's terrible, worse than Keane or Bruton even. The worst part about that is he insists on taking shots, which has held back an already elite Thunder offense. Despite that, Sinclair makes this list because he's as dominant a defensive player as there is. The Thunder have sported one of the better defenses in basketball this season, and though there's plenty of credit to go around, there's no doubt that Sinclair is the anchor of the entire system. A solid rebounder as well, Sinclair is a guy who, if he can ever get his offensive game under control, belongs amongst the elite big men in the league. Unfortunately that day may never come, but for now, he and the Thunder are doing just fine.
BONUS BECAUSE I SUCK 11. Ed Macauley PF 28 6'8'' 205 B C C- A- B+ B
-The last spot was a pretty tough call, but I couldn't resist including Ed. His ratings aren't spectacular, and his volume stats won't jump out at you, but Ed is a guy who you can play at PF and win a lot of games with. Offensively he's up there with Schayes and Petit in terms of efficiency, albeit a little more turnover prone. On the glass he's a little iffy despite the B+ rating, and defensively he isn't exactly an imposing shot blocker. With all that said, he's a guy I'd gladly take on my team without any hesitation, and a guy who's rarely going to be the reason you lose, even if he's not often the reason you win.
Honorable mention:
Andre Hixon - Solid all around, but doesn't really stand out.
Derrick Favors - Statistically he belongs, but with the Bobcats awful defense you have to think his D isn't helping as much as the blocks suggest he is.
Clyde Levellette - Similar to Hixon, but doesn't block shots.
Kenny Sears - Efficient, great job of limiting turnovers, but low volume and iffy defense.
Jonas Valancinius - he's been playing center
Quincy Miller - nice offensive player, awful defender
Tommy Heinsohn - efficient as hell, lives at the free throw line, solid defender, but doesn't put up huge volume. I expect him to be a similar player to Schayes/Petit
Lorenzo Bunn - See Sinclair, except worse.
Dishonorable Mention:
Herbert Page
Damontre Harris
Damian Drake
Stromile Storm - Easily the worst offensive PF in the league. His ratings look so good, but god damn he sucks.
By the way, still can't figure out why Lamont McGee sucks so bad. He's the anti-Rickey Francis.
Glossary:
fbb_oRtg - a player's points produced per 100 possessions used, taking into account shooting efficiency, turnover rate, and offensive rebounding. League average is 111.8.
TS% - A true measure of shooting efficiency, similar to eFG% except it also factors in free throws. League average is 53.5%.
TO% - The percentage of possessions a player turned the ball over. Again, assists are not factored into possessions. League average is 11.6%.
REB% - The percentage of available rebounds a player grabbed while on the court. League average is 10%.
BLK% - Percentage of the opponents shots a player blocks. League average is .33%.
STL% - Percentage of opponents possessions that a player ends with a steal. League average is .33%.
PF Top 10 Rankings
These rankings do not take contract or age into account, only who the best players in the league are right now, at this very moment. To decide that, I've used stats primarily from this season combined with ratings and a given player's statistical history.
I've gotta say, the PFs are probably the hardest group to rate. There are few guys who really stand out, a bunch of solid offensively but iffy defenders, and a bunch of elite defenders who are disasters on offense. Weird group to gauge, I did my best, feel free to rip into me after.
1. Stephen Flint PF 30 6'11'' 235 A- D D- A A- C
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 115.5 | 50.90% | 4.25% | 12.90% | 3.00% | 0.90% |
2. Bob Petit PF 24 6'9'' 211 A- C- D+ A A B
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 120.2 | 54.00% | 6.71% | 14.40% | 1.70% | 0.90% |
3. Dolph Schayes PF 28 6'8'' 200 A- C C+ B A B
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 120.3 | 55.20% | 8.11% | 12.40% | 1.90% | 0.90% |
4. Jayson O'Keane PF 26 6'8'' 248 A C+ D+ C B+ D
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 116.7 | 57.80% | 12.80% | 11.50% | 2.30% | 0.70% |
5. Tyrone Keane PF 27 7'0'' 257 B+ B+ C A+ B B
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 108.1 | 51.10% | 13.79% | 10.50% | 3.60% | 0.80% |
6. Koni Bruton PF 27 6'9'' 237 B C C B+ A C
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 109.4 | 51.20% | 13.27% | 13.20% | 4.00% | 1.20% |
7. DeMarcus Cousins PF 35 6'11'' 266 B+ C- D+ B A- C
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 117.5 | 52.90% | 6.72% | 11.70% | 2.30% | 0.80% |
8. Blake Griffin PF 37 6'10'' 260 B+ C- C B+ A- C
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 114.3 | 53.40% | 10.39% | 13.20% | 2.30% | 1.40% |
9. Juno Tremont PF 26 6'9'' 224 A C+ C A- B+ C
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 113.6 | 53.70% | 9.72% | 10.20% | 1.30% | 1.10% |
10. Randy Sinclair PF 26 7'0'' 221 A- C- C A B+ B
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 108.9 | 49.80% | 9.03% | 11.80% | 4.50% | 1.10% |
BONUS BECAUSE I SUCK 11. Ed Macauley PF 28 6'8'' 205 B C C- A- B+ B
| fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
| 117.6 | 56.30% | 9.76% | 9.70% | 1.30% | 1.00% |
Honorable mention:
Andre Hixon - Solid all around, but doesn't really stand out.
Derrick Favors - Statistically he belongs, but with the Bobcats awful defense you have to think his D isn't helping as much as the blocks suggest he is.
Clyde Levellette - Similar to Hixon, but doesn't block shots.
Kenny Sears - Efficient, great job of limiting turnovers, but low volume and iffy defense.
Jonas Valancinius - he's been playing center
Quincy Miller - nice offensive player, awful defender
Tommy Heinsohn - efficient as hell, lives at the free throw line, solid defender, but doesn't put up huge volume. I expect him to be a similar player to Schayes/Petit
Lorenzo Bunn - See Sinclair, except worse.
Dishonorable Mention:
Herbert Page
Damontre Harris
Damian Drake
Stromile Storm - Easily the worst offensive PF in the league. His ratings look so good, but god damn he sucks.
By the way, still can't figure out why Lamont McGee sucks so bad. He's the anti-Rickey Francis.
