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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 0:33:54 GMT -5
Also Pitt is a joke of a football program. When was the last time they were at all nationally relevant? That has nothing to do with this debate at all. |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 0:42:09 GMT -5
Yeah, but it was truly well known that Pryor only considered Penn State because of his dad. He took a visit and hated it. Pryor was such a tremendously huge story around here - I know every single detail of his recruitment. I was and still am friends with a teammate of Pryor. He was never really going to go to Penn State - he was appeasing his father. It's that simple. Outside of USC these past two season, the Ohio State out of conference schedule is generally just a tour of Ohio. Which is different than every other major college football power how? Very few teams of OSU's caliber go out and schedule National powers out of conference. Go look at any team in the top 10, they all play terrible non-conference schedules. I'm glad you know a ton about Pryor, but as soon as it was obvious that Rich Rod was leaving WVU he was not going there. |
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 0:46:59 GMT -5
Yeah, but it was truly well known that Pryor only considered Penn State because of his dad. He took a visit and hated it. Pryor was such a tremendously huge story around here - I know every single detail of his recruitment. I was and still am friends with a teammate of Pryor. He was never really going to go to Penn State - he was appeasing his father. It's that simple. Outside of USC these past two season, the Ohio State out of conference schedule is generally just a tour of Ohio. Which is different than every other major college football power how? Very few teams of OSU's caliber go out and schedule National powers out of conference. Go look at any team in the top 10, they all play terrible non-conference schedules. I'm glad you know a ton about Pryor, but as soon as it was obvious that Rich Rod was leaving WVU he was not going there. Yeah, you pretty much just summed up our point. If RichRod beats Pitt and wins the national championship I highly, highly doubt he goes to Michigan. Why would he? He'd get a sick recruiting class and be a god to all of those toothless hoopies. Obviously, we'll never know, but I'd have to guess he'd stay at WVU. As soon as it was obvious RichRod was leaving, yeah, WVU was no longer an option. What made it obvious that he was leaving WVU? The Pitt loss. |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 0:50:43 GMT -5
Which is different than every other major college football power how? Very few teams of OSU's caliber go out and schedule National powers out of conference. Go look at any team in the top 10, they all play terrible non-conference schedules. I'm glad you know a ton about Pryor, but as soon as it was obvious that Rich Rod was leaving WVU he was not going there. Yeah, you pretty much just summed up our point. If RichRod beats Pitt and wins the national championship I highly, highly doubt he goes to Michigan. Why would he? He'd get a sick recruiting class and be a god to all of those toothless hoopies. Obviously, we'll never know, but I'd have to guess he'd stay at WVU. As soon as it was obvious RichRod was leaving, yeah, WVU was no longer an option. What made it obvious that he was leaving WVU? The Pitt loss. Meh, I think he would have left anyway. That's really just my personal opinion though. He seems like a scumbag who is just out for himself. Michigan is one of the most prestigious jobs in the country and would make him a household name (or at least more so than he ever would at WVU). |
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 0:54:01 GMT -5
Yeah, you pretty much just summed up our point. If RichRod beats Pitt and wins the national championship I highly, highly doubt he goes to Michigan. Why would he? He'd get a sick recruiting class and be a god to all of those toothless hoopies. Obviously, we'll never know, but I'd have to guess he'd stay at WVU. As soon as it was obvious RichRod was leaving, yeah, WVU was no longer an option. What made it obvious that he was leaving WVU? The Pitt loss. Meh, I think he would have left anyway. That's really just my personal opinion though. He seems like a scumbag who is just out for himself. Michigan is one of the most prestigious jobs in the country and would make him a household name (or at least more so than he ever would at WVU). He's definitely a scumbag. No doubt. And he very well may have left WVU down the road if they went into a slump of some sort. However, being a West Virginia native and leading them at an NC would elevate him to god status in that state. Plus, when you win a national championship you pretty much become a household name. Not to mention, he had Pat White coming back the following season. I just don't see how he would've landed at Michigan. Certainly you wouldn't leave BEFORE the National Championship, right? Nobody in their right mind would do that no matter the circumstance. Michigan would've had to wait over a month to find out the result of the national championship - I doubt they wait that long and throw all of their eggs in one basket. |
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 0:57:14 GMT -5
Pryor's dad wanted him to go to PSU and he didn't want to at all. He was never going there. Lets just get off the subject because we all have our own opinions on that one. I think WVU playing for the national title game would have been huge but whoever won it would have likely ended up being where he went (since it would have been OSU-WVU... unless he decided he for sure wanted to play in Rich Rods spread) You don't think Rich Rod was 100% the reason he was considering WVU? Had he stayed at WVU AND they put up a good showing against OSU in the title game then I think it would have been a possibility. But as soon as Carr stepped down at Michigan it was pretty obvious that Rich Rod would be going there. He was the only big name coach who was actually going to leave their current program. The only reason Rich Rod left is because of his ongoing fight with WVU's AD and the state governor getting involved (through the school president who was hired to be a puppet for Joe Manchin and his friends). Both sides handled the situation horribly and when it came down to it neither person would blink and give in to the other. The only thing Rich could do was leave which is exactly what he did (and at the time some of the high ups wanted). |
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 0:58:48 GMT -5
If WVU wins the Pitt game then LSU isn't in the National Championship Game and Les Miles (a hot commodity for God knows why at the time) likely gets the job.
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 0:59:23 GMT -5
Greg Schiano was offered the job before Rich so it wasn't like he at the top of their list
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 1:00:15 GMT -5
Do you think WVU fans would ever accept Rich back? I'd have to imagine it'd be a resounding no, but Bill Stewart is a fucktard.
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Post by Ducky on Nov 30, 2009 1:05:40 GMT -5
Also Pitt is a joke of a football program. When was the last time they were at all nationally relevant? |
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 1:08:23 GMT -5
At this point in time there is only one way Rich would ever be back at WVU.
1. Ed Pastilong is forced to retire this summer. He has been scheduled to since around the Rich debacle. He was originally supposed to retire after the 07 season but decided he wanted to stay till this summer.
2. Witt Babcock, former assistant AD, is hired as AD. He left in the summer before the 07 season for a promotion.
3. Rich gets fired from Michigan.
All are plausible to happen in the next year, but I don't really see Stewart being fired anytime soon due to who is in charge. I think Rich would sit out a year or two before coming back anyways.
The only way someone could warrant bringing him back is that he will more then likely be the only high profile coach up for the job. I mean 2 years ago who was up for a job that had a big name?
It was down to:
Skip Holtz
Butch Jones
on the day of the Fiesta Bowl and Butch Jones was offered the job before the game. The victory changed things.
other names up for the job were
Terry Bowden (are you fucking kidding me)
Doc Holliday (supposed coach in waiting according to some... ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?)
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 1:09:14 GMT -5
Witt and Rich are very good friends which is why he would likely have to be AD for Rich to return
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 1:10:32 GMT -5
Doc Holliday totally has the name to be the WVU coach.
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 1:15:17 GMT -5
Doc Holliday is completely worthless at life except for recruiting south florida
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 1:17:01 GMT -5
Doc Holliday is completely worthless at life except for recruiting south florida If you had to pick - Bill Stewart, Dave Wannstedt (ignoring that it could never happen), or Doc Holliday? |
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