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Post by Maniac on Nov 29, 2009 23:58:40 GMT -5
Not winning a National Championship and losing our coach who was then replaced with an idiot. The idiot is then given a longterm 100% guaranteed deal. Not that he is looking that great this point but Terrell Pryor was more than likely coming here at that point in time as well. Pryor was not going to go to WVU. No chance in hell. He was going to a marquee program, West Virginia is not that. As for the rest of it, whatever there's been more debilitating losses. Far more. That's a pretty ignorant post. WVU was going to play in the national championship game. Instead, LSU played in that game and spanked OSU. Pssst, WVU would've run Ohio State off the field in that one. I have no doubt about that honestly. So, instead of winning the National Championship the Mountaineers went on to beat Oklahoma. It was a big win, but it had awful repercussions for the Mountaineers. RichRod was gone already. They hired Hillbilly Bill on a whim instead of making a logical, well-thought-out coaching decision. Pryor no longer had interest in WVU. WVU lost about 3 or 4 big-time recruits to Pitt immediately after that game. Pitt received 8 commits in the week after that game. WVU lost recruits when RichRod left. Their offense became a shell of what it was under RichRod. He had WVU in a great position to be a national contending program for years and years. And, this is all coming from a Pitt fan. I hate those fuckers, but it was definitely a crushing, crushing loss. You'd be hard pressed to find one more debilitating to a program. |
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Post by Maniac on Nov 29, 2009 23:59:24 GMT -5
think whatever you want... he was about 90% coming here I know that for a fact I don't know about 90%, but I'd say there was a 50% chance he would've been a Mountaineer. |
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 0:00:01 GMT -5
do you think you guys will beat Cincy? I think we have a chance. It'll be a shootout. Cincy really isn't that great. We played a better game against them but got screwed on multiple occasions by the refs. I think if you guys are as physical as you can be and get pressure on Pike then you win by 7+ Kelly is actually good at his job. Big advantage for Cincy against WVU or Pitt since our coaches don't |
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 0:01:38 GMT -5
think whatever you want... he was about 90% coming here I know that for a fact I don't know about 90%, but I'd say there was a 50% chance he would've been a Mountaineer. well everyone is always way overconfident about getting recruits till they find out otherwise but the staff here was pretty sold that he was coming |
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 0:07:52 GMT -5
I think we have a chance. It'll be a shootout. Cincy really isn't that great. We played a better game against them but got screwed on multiple occasions by the refs. I think if you guys are as physical as you can be and get pressure on Pike then you win by 7+ Kelly is actually good at his job. Big advantage for Cincy against WVU or Pitt since our coaches don't God, the coaching in that game was awful in general. Wannstedt continued to try and kick unrealistic field goals. Stewart wouldn't try chip shot field goals. The Pitt offense was run, run, force a deep pass for the first three and a half quarters. The WVU offense was very inconsistent and got bailed out by a great Devine run. I'm half surprised Stewart didn't send out the punt team instead of the FG unit at the end. And, if he did, I would have been half surprised if Wannstedt didn't call a timeout to let Stewart regroup. |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 0:08:21 GMT -5
Pryor was not going to go to WVU. No chance in hell. He was going to a marquee program, West Virginia is not that. As for the rest of it, whatever there's been more debilitating losses. Far more. That's a pretty ignorant post. WVU was going to play in the national championship game. Instead, LSU played in that game and spanked OSU. Pssst, WVU would've run Ohio State off the field in that one. I have no doubt about that honestly. So, instead of winning the National Championship the Mountaineers went on to beat Oklahoma. It was a big win, but it had awful repercussions for the Mountaineers. RichRod was gone already. They hired Hillbilly Bill on a whim instead of making a logical, well-thought-out coaching decision. Pryor no longer had interest in WVU. WVU lost about 3 or 4 big-time recruits to Pitt immediately after that game. Pitt received 8 commits in the week after that game. WVU lost recruits when RichRod left. Their offense became a shell of what it was under RichRod. He had WVU in a great position to be a national contending program for years and years. And, this is all coming from a Pitt fan. I hate those fuckers, but it was definitely a crushing, crushing loss. You'd be hard pressed to find one more debilitating to a program. LOL. Ignorant post? Coming from you that hurts. 90% Pryor was going to WVU? Are you serious? Penn State was the frontrunner for pretty much the whole recruiting process. I'm glad you think WVU would have "spanked" OSU, but that's just your conjecture. The score of the game was not at all indicative of the actual game. Ohio State lost by 14. They were up 10-3, when Robiskie dropped a TD pass. LSU then proceeded to block the short FG which turned the tide of the game. It's not like OSU got blown out. Boeckman played like fucking dog-shit and turned the ball over 3 times in key situations. OSU also out gained LSU, so pretty much you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Good try though. |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 0:10:10 GMT -5
I don't know about 90%, but I'd say there was a 50% chance he would've been a Mountaineer. well everyone is always way overconfident about getting recruits till they find out otherwise but the staff here was pretty sold that he was coming So were Penn State's. There was quite a bit of confidence at OSU that he was going to play for us as well. It was pretty obvious that he was playing mind games with all the schools involved. |
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 0:13:20 GMT -5
Cincy really isn't that great. We played a better game against them but got screwed on multiple occasions by the refs. I think if you guys are as physical as you can be and get pressure on Pike then you win by 7+ Kelly is actually good at his job. Big advantage for Cincy against WVU or Pitt since our coaches don't God, the coaching in that game was awful in general. Wannstedt continued to try and kick unrealistic field goals. Stewart wouldn't try chip shot field goals. The Pitt offense was run, run, force a deep pass for the first three and a half quarters. The WVU offense was very inconsistent and got bailed out by a great Devine run. I'm half surprised Stewart didn't send out the punt team instead of the FG unit at the end. And, if he did, I would have been half surprised if Wannstedt didn't call a timeout to let Stewart regroup. I definitely thought we were punting on 4th and 1. I definitely thought we were short and I had a good view live but I couldn't see the last effort that I think actually did get him across. I can't believe we settled for the FG we did when we could have ran another play instead of letting the clock run out (especially centering up the kick). Last year, if we didn't have Pat White we would have been lucky to be bowl eligible. this year, without Devine it would be about the same story. We would have probably won 6 but not the 9 we are looking to win now. |
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Post by Jordan on Nov 30, 2009 0:15:49 GMT -5
Pryor's dad wanted him to go to PSU and he didn't want to at all. He was never going there. Lets just get off the subject because we all have our own opinions on that one. I think WVU playing for the national title game would have been huge but whoever won it would have likely ended up being where he went (since it would have been OSU-WVU... unless he decided he for sure wanted to play in Rich Rods spread)
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 0:17:41 GMT -5
I can't figure out Cincy. They had a pretty good win @ Oregon State but besides that it's really tough to tell. I don't really like anyone else in the Big East, Pitt has literally play no one and WVU just doesn't seem like they have it. Every time I've watched Cincy they've looked really good. I think the saving grace for them is that they'll get to play an ACC team.
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 0:18:25 GMT -5
That's a pretty ignorant post. WVU was going to play in the national championship game. Instead, LSU played in that game and spanked OSU. Pssst, WVU would've run Ohio State off the field in that one. I have no doubt about that honestly. So, instead of winning the National Championship the Mountaineers went on to beat Oklahoma. It was a big win, but it had awful repercussions for the Mountaineers. RichRod was gone already. They hired Hillbilly Bill on a whim instead of making a logical, well-thought-out coaching decision. Pryor no longer had interest in WVU. WVU lost about 3 or 4 big-time recruits to Pitt immediately after that game. Pitt received 8 commits in the week after that game. WVU lost recruits when RichRod left. Their offense became a shell of what it was under RichRod. He had WVU in a great position to be a national contending program for years and years. And, this is all coming from a Pitt fan. I hate those fuckers, but it was definitely a crushing, crushing loss. You'd be hard pressed to find one more debilitating to a program. LOL. Ignorant post? Coming from you that hurts. 90% Pryor was going to WVU? Are you serious? Penn State was the frontrunner for pretty much the whole recruiting process. I'm glad you think WVU would have "spanked" OSU, but that's just your conjecture. The score of the game was not at all indicative of the actual game. Ohio State lost by 14. They were up 10-3, when Robiskie dropped a TD pass. LSU then proceeded to block the short FG which turned the tide of the game. It's not like OSU got blown out. Boeckman played like fucking dog-shit and turned the ball over 3 times in key situations. OSU also out gained LSU, so pretty much you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Good try though. Penn State was not the front runner at all. The only reason Penn State was in the mix was because of Pryor's dad. Pryor pretty much hated Penn State after he went on his visit there. I don't think they ever had much of a realistic chance. So, you're wrong there. Nice try though. Excuses, excuses, excuses. They lost the game by 14 to an LSU team that was only playing in the NC because WVU lost. They had just given up 50 points to Arkansas the game before the SEC Championship. They were a good team, yes, but they survived by the skin of their teeth the entire season. That Oklahoma team that WVU destroyed, 48-28, was very talented and ran through Ok. State and Missouri the last two games of the year. WVU dominated them. Ohio State was outclassed in yet another national championship game. They would've been outclassed whether the opponent was LSU or WVU. Nice try though. |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 0:20:11 GMT -5
Pryor's dad wanted him to go to PSU and he didn't want to at all. He was never going there. Lets just get off the subject because we all have our own opinions on that one. I think WVU playing for the national title game would have been huge but whoever won it would have likely ended up being where he went (since it would have been OSU-WVU... unless he decided he for sure wanted to play in Rich Rods spread) You don't think Rich Rod was 100% the reason he was considering WVU? Had he stayed at WVU AND they put up a good showing against OSU in the title game then I think it would have been a possibility. But as soon as Carr stepped down at Michigan it was pretty obvious that Rich Rod would be going there. He was the only big name coach who was actually going to leave their current program. |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 0:28:14 GMT -5
LOL. Ignorant post? Coming from you that hurts. 90% Pryor was going to WVU? Are you serious? Penn State was the frontrunner for pretty much the whole recruiting process. I'm glad you think WVU would have "spanked" OSU, but that's just your conjecture. The score of the game was not at all indicative of the actual game. Ohio State lost by 14. They were up 10-3, when Robiskie dropped a TD pass. LSU then proceeded to block the short FG which turned the tide of the game. It's not like OSU got blown out. Boeckman played like fucking dog-shit and turned the ball over 3 times in key situations. OSU also out gained LSU, so pretty much you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. Good try though. Penn State was not the front runner at all. The only reason Penn State was in the mix was because of Pryor's dad. Pryor pretty much hated Penn State after he went on his visit there. I don't think they ever had much of a realistic chance. So, you're wrong there. Nice try though. Excuses, excuses, excuses. They lost the game by 14 to an LSU team that was only playing in the NC because WVU lost. They had just given up 50 points to Arkansas the game before the SEC Championship. They were a good team, yes, but they survived by the skin of their teeth the entire season. That Oklahoma team that WVU destroyed, 48-28, was very talented and ran through Ok. State and Missouri the last two games of the year. WVU dominated them. Ohio State was outclassed in yet another national championship game. They would've been outclassed whether the opponent was LSU or WVU. Nice try though. LOL. At the end of Pryor's recruiting it was OSU and Penn State. That's a fact. I'm not really sure how else you could argue that. Maybe it was "obvious" he wasn't going there but those were still his last two choices. As for OSU getting outclassed in yet another National Championship game, that's a joke. I'm sorry that they earned a spot in the game and lost to the BEST TEAM in the country. Pretty awful of them, and if you remember they were only in the game because WVU, Missouri, etc choked down the stretch. They were something like #5 in the nation going into the last week of the season. Why should Ohio State need to apologize because they finish every year with 1-2 losses a season and other teams can't do that. Outside of the SEC no teams play extremely demanding schedules (even the SEC this year was a bit down). I'm sick of this shit about Ohio State at least they're willing to schedule GOOD teams out of conference unlike about 90% of the schools in the country. I don't see anyone in the Big East/ACC/Big 12 scheduling USC, Texas, etc. |
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Post by Jeff on Nov 30, 2009 0:28:53 GMT -5
Also Pitt is a joke of a football program. When was the last time they were at all nationally relevant?
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Post by Maniac on Nov 30, 2009 0:33:19 GMT -5
Yeah, but it was truly well known that Pryor only considered Penn State because of his dad. He took a visit and hated it. Pryor was such a tremendously huge story around here - I know every single detail of his recruitment. I was and still am friends with a teammate of Pryor. He was never really going to go to Penn State - he was appeasing his father. It's that simple.
Outside of USC these past two season, the Ohio State out of conference schedule is generally just a tour of Ohio.
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