Post by repole ಠ_ಠ on Jul 22, 2011 12:47:27 GMT -5
Stats are from Day 100. Hoping to do these for other positions, will try my best depending on time constraints.
Before I start, I have a new (sort of) stat to introduce: fbb_oRtg.
I modified oRtg because it puts a pretty heavy weight on assists. Unfortunately, the way FBB deals with assists is totally ass backwards. Instead of a good passing point guard finding guys good shots, passing doesn't affect the FG% or volume of any of the surrounding players. Instead, passing only affects the player's own shooting. For example, if you took KC Jones and changed his passing to 0, none of the other Magic players would see any decrease in production. Instead, Jones' own shooting percentages would drastically decline. Since assists aren't helping other players on the team, there's no need to count them as they don't add any value to the offense. A player putting up 20 points with 1 assist on 50% shooting isn't helping an FBB team any less than a player putting up 20 points and 10 assists on 50% shooting.
Glossary:
fbb_oRtg - a player's points produced per 100 possessions used, taking into account shooting efficiency, turnover rate, and offensive rebounding. League average is 111.8.
TS% - A true measure of shooting efficiency, similar to eFG% except it also factors in free throws. League average is 53.5%.
TO% - The percentage of possessions a player turned the ball over. Again, assists are not factored into possessions. League average is 11.6%.
REB% - The percentage of available rebounds a player grabbed while on the court. League average is 10%.
BLK% - Percentage of the opponents shots a player blocks. League average is .33%.
STL% - Percentage of opponents possessions that a player ends with a steal. League average is .33%.
These are rankings for this season only and do not factor in contract or age in any way. Simply put, if I had to win one game right now, this is how I'd rank these guys.
1. Rickey Francis PG 29 5'6'' 154 C A C C+ C C
-The idea that assists are meaningless benefits Rickey Francis more than any player in the league. The fact that Francis manages to put up a 59.50% TS% despite having what must be an incredibly low passing rating is remarkable. While his shooting is impressive, where Francis shines is his ability to limit turnovers. With just 6.5% of his possessions ending in turnovers (far and away the lowest for a PG), it's easy to see how Francis is far and away the most efficient point guard in the league. His only real flaw is that he's not much of a man to man defender, but he picks up a good number of steals and actually does a pretty good job on the glass. He's a unique player, I'm not sure if Spencer knew what he was creating with Francis, but I doubt he realized he'd be this good.
2. Bradley Barker PG 23 6'0'' 185 B- A+ A B+ D+ B
-Barker and the next guy on this list are pretty close offensively. Barker's big advantage though is that he produces similar efficiency on significantly higher volume. His shooting efficiency is really good, though not elite as it has been in the past, and he does about as well of a job at limiting turnovers as any PG not named Francis. His only real knock is his rebounding is pretty poor, and I guess you could complain about his man to man defense, but that's just getting picky. Even with the iffy man to man defense, Barker does a fantastic job of racking up steals. The Heat definitely have a franchise player heading into next season, hopefully they manage to do a better job building around him than the Bobcats did.
3. Kyrie Irving PG 34 6'1'' 177 C+ A A+ C+ D- F
-This isn't easy to say, but Irving might actually be a better player than Barker offensively right now. He's a lights out shooter and rarely turns the ball over. He doesn't put up quite the volume that a Barker does, but he's still carrying a heavy load for the Grizzlies. Defensively Irving is in the same boat as a Rickey Francis, he does a decent job picking up steals, but is a pretty poor man to man defender. It's a shame that Irving is wasting on the Grizzlies where his lack of rebounding and defense is an awful fit next to Omar Green. Having a bad rebounder at PG isn't the end of the world, but having both your PG and SG be pitiful rebounders is pretty much guaranteed to make you one of the worst rebounding teams in the league.
4. Jacquez Knight PG 28 6'3'' 192 A- A A A- C C
-Knight hasn't quite been the dominant force he was the past few seasons, but he's still a quality point guard on both sides of the ball. His percentages have been down this season, but they're still above average, and he still does a good job of limiting turnovers. He's a quality offensive player, but he's not at the level of the above three guys. His major selling point however is his defense, the guy is an absolute ball hawk. It's sort of hard to say that much about Knight because the guy is just a really solid all around player, nothing aside from his steal rate is exceptional, but his all around game is fantastic.
5. Purnell Jackson PG 23 6'7'' 210 A- B A- B+ C C
-Jackson is far and away the hardest guy to rate on this list. He's coming off a season where he won MVP (despite being on the All-League Third Team) and was pretty clearly one of the top 5 players in the league. With that said, his season this year has been really underwhelming. Play will point to Jackson not being an option, and that can explain his decrease in volume, but there's nothing to explain why he's not shooting the ball as well or turning it over at a higher rate. Perhaps his behind the scenes ratings declined some and it hasn't shown on the surface, but there's gotta be something to explain his lack of production. Personally, I'd like to rank him lower, but I know the Play shit storm that's coming is already going to be bad enough with Jackson at 5.
6. Quentin Derrick PG 33 5'7'' 160 B A- A- A C D
-QD is a guy who's won two championships, winning playoff MVP both times, and despite that hasn't gotten the respect he deserves around the league. As a point guard, the guy is pretty much flawless. He's a quality shooter, rebounder, ball hawk, and ball handler. Although he's aged some, he's still elite, even if most don't want to recognize it. A lot scoffed at how much the Cavs gave up to get him, especially in comparison to O'Mara, but QDs impact at the point is huge. He's a lot like Knight in that there isn't a ton interesting about him, he just simply gets the job done.
7. Ray McCallum PG 33 6'1'' 188 B B+ A- A- C- C
-Ray's had a pretty interesting year so far. Earlier in the season, OKC sent him to the Nets for John Wall hoping that the drop off wouldn't be too noticeable. While Wall struggled with his turnovers at point and eventually moved to SG, Ray has been as solid as a rock all season long. His shooting is solid, his turnovers are under control, he's an alright rebounder, and he does an excellent job on the defensive end coming up with steals. He's not particularly flashy, but for a guy who doesn't have a ton of value around the league, he gets the job done. He's been a big part of the Nets success, probably larger than most people realize.
8. K.C. Jones PG 24 6'1'' 203 B B A A- C B
-Jones has done a solid job for the Magic this year, and while his all around stats look pretty good, there are a number of areas where he just doesn't quite stack up to the elite. Though Jones is shooting well from the field, he simply isn't the three point shooter most of these other guys are, and the result is a lower TS% than the majority of guys above him. Also, for a guy who was billed as being really secure with the ball coming into the league, his turnover rate is actually pretty average. It's by no means bad, but every guy on this list ahead of him turns the ball over less often. The biggest flaw for Jones however is his low steal rate. Despite being considered a quality defender, Jones just doesn't rack up the steals. With all that said, he's only been through two training camps, so there's certainly some potential left in that tank. I'd be surprised if Jones doesn't continue to move up this list over time, though I doubt he gets quite to the level of a Francis or Barker.
9. Bob Cousy PG 28 6'1'' 175 A- B A+ A C B
-Bob Cousy has some of the prettiest ratings in the league, but to me he hasn't quite been as productive as I'd expect. He sort of reminds me of real life Derrick Rose, in that he's going to get credit for leading the Hawks to a nice record, but in reality the reason the Hawks have won games is their defense (in which Cousy's role is no where near as important as Koni Bruton). His volume numbers are great, but his efficiency is pretty mediocre for a PG, and while he doesn't really do anything poorly, he doesn't do a whole lot great other than put up huge volume. My concern with Cousy while he was on my team was that his three point shooting would hold back his efficiency, and thus far that's been the case to some extent. His TS% is still above average, but it's far from elite, and the end result is Cousy simply isn't the superstar franchise player that most probably think he is.
10. Isaac Woods PG 30 6'1'' 187 A- A- B- B C C
-Big time scorer. He's only played 25 mpg this year, but his scoring rate is pretty damn impressive, and he's a quality rebounder. After Cousy it gets a bit muddled in terms of point guards, but I picked Woods because of his dynamic scoring ability. The turnovers are a little high, but it's survivable as long as he keeps shooting as efficiently as he has. Defensively he's pretty mediocre, probably a bit below average, but he makes up for it some with his quality rebounding. All in all, I think a team can win with Woods as their PG if properly constructed, though his flaws do have to be masked by a SG who doesn't turn it over and some quality defense around him.
Honorable mention:
Frank Ramsey - Just converted to PG, hard to get a gauge on him.
Austin Rivers - Has been playing SG
Phil Martin - pretty efficient, but low usage.
Darian McCutchan - ultra efficient, really low usage.
Dishonorable mention:
Donovon Beals
Jay Johnson
Don Ackerman
Broderick Hayes
La'Shon Lesser
Bob Carney
Luis Nazario
Jerry Barros
Kasumara Izawa
Renato Amare
-These guys have all been awful, they shouldn't be getting minutes with the way they're playing.
Before I start, I have a new (sort of) stat to introduce: fbb_oRtg.
I modified oRtg because it puts a pretty heavy weight on assists. Unfortunately, the way FBB deals with assists is totally ass backwards. Instead of a good passing point guard finding guys good shots, passing doesn't affect the FG% or volume of any of the surrounding players. Instead, passing only affects the player's own shooting. For example, if you took KC Jones and changed his passing to 0, none of the other Magic players would see any decrease in production. Instead, Jones' own shooting percentages would drastically decline. Since assists aren't helping other players on the team, there's no need to count them as they don't add any value to the offense. A player putting up 20 points with 1 assist on 50% shooting isn't helping an FBB team any less than a player putting up 20 points and 10 assists on 50% shooting.
Glossary:
fbb_oRtg - a player's points produced per 100 possessions used, taking into account shooting efficiency, turnover rate, and offensive rebounding. League average is 111.8.
TS% - A true measure of shooting efficiency, similar to eFG% except it also factors in free throws. League average is 53.5%.
TO% - The percentage of possessions a player turned the ball over. Again, assists are not factored into possessions. League average is 11.6%.
REB% - The percentage of available rebounds a player grabbed while on the court. League average is 10%.
BLK% - Percentage of the opponents shots a player blocks. League average is .33%.
STL% - Percentage of opponents possessions that a player ends with a steal. League average is .33%.
These are rankings for this season only and do not factor in contract or age in any way. Simply put, if I had to win one game right now, this is how I'd rank these guys.
1. Rickey Francis PG 29 5'6'' 154 C A C C+ C C
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
128.3 | 59.50% | 6.50% | 5.10% | 0.40% | 1.60% |
2. Bradley Barker PG 23 6'0'' 185 B- A+ A B+ D+ B
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
121.4 | 57.60% | 8.11% | 3.50% | 0.20% | 2.50% |
3. Kyrie Irving PG 34 6'1'' 177 C+ A A+ C+ D- F
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
123.5 | 60.00% | 8.70% | 2.70% | 0.20% | 2.00% |
4. Jacquez Knight PG 28 6'3'' 192 A- A A A- C C
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
119.2 | 56.60% | 9.35% | 5.10% | 0.10% | 3.10% |
5. Purnell Jackson PG 23 6'7'' 210 A- B A- B+ C C
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
114.8 | 56.00% | 12.40% | 5.90% | 0.10% | 1.70% |
6. Quentin Derrick PG 33 5'7'' 160 B A- A- A C D
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
118.7 | 57.70% | 9.67% | 5.90% | 0.20% | 2.80% |
7. Ray McCallum PG 33 6'1'' 188 B B+ A- A- C- C
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
118.3 | 56.40% | 9.73% | 4.50% | 0.20% | 2.50% |
8. K.C. Jones PG 24 6'1'' 203 B B A A- C B
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
116.8 | 57.20% | 11.51% | 5.30% | 0.40% | 1.10% |
9. Bob Cousy PG 28 6'1'' 175 A- B A+ A C B
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
114 | 54.50% | 9.97% | 5.90% | 0.40% | 2.10% |
10. Isaac Woods PG 30 6'1'' 187 A- A- B- B C C
fbb_oRtg | TS% | TO% | REB% | BLK% | STL% |
119.8 | 58.30% | 10.24% | 5.90% | 0.20% | 1.50% |
Honorable mention:
Frank Ramsey - Just converted to PG, hard to get a gauge on him.
Austin Rivers - Has been playing SG
Phil Martin - pretty efficient, but low usage.
Darian McCutchan - ultra efficient, really low usage.
Dishonorable mention:
Donovon Beals
Jay Johnson
Don Ackerman
Broderick Hayes
La'Shon Lesser
Bob Carney
Luis Nazario
Jerry Barros
Kasumara Izawa
Renato Amare
-These guys have all been awful, they shouldn't be getting minutes with the way they're playing.