Post by Jeff on Apr 26, 2011 0:45:44 GMT -5
Part II, enjoy. Maybe more comments and votes than Part I would be good.
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Dan Davis SF 25 6'6'' 220 B+ A- C+ A C- C
I like his percentages and I think he can still improve. He's pretty young and he has great size for the SG position. His TO situation is pretty good and with most players, I think his steals will increase. The premium on good SG's is about to go way up. We have a ton of great bigs coming up, but not too many SG's. I think it will be the hardest position to net in a few years. I have a feeling his stock is only going to go up in the next few seasons.
Aar's List #15
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Andrew Wiggins PF 25 7'0'' 264 B+ C- D A- B B
I really like Higgins. His FG% this year is shit, but his defense and rebounding is massive. I think the FG% can get better. He's just about as good as Drummond, but I think he has more potential. His value is pretty high. He's at 5.6 BPG+SPG, that's great. He's still a work in progress, but I like the upside quite a bit. His deal is kind of crap, only two years and he'll have another MAX. Definitely worth it though.
Aar's List #30
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Allan Avery SG 25 6'2'' 208 A- A C B C C
I really like Avery. He's a pretty awesome player. I think he will be able to get his TO's under 2 at some point. He has nice steals numbers and is a great shooter percentages wise. I think his height really hurts, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it really makes in FBB. If he was 6'5 he'd be in the top 10. I think that's a bit unfair. I really think this is low, but I think his general value is relatively low. Will probably one of the best scorers in the league for years to come.
Aar's List #17
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Quentin Derrick PG 27 5'7'' 157 B A A+ A C D
I have never really been a huge Derrick fan. I think for the beginning of his career he just put up monster numbers on shit teams. The amount of quality PG's in the league lowers his value some. I also really don't like his height, I feel like he probably gets scored on pretty easily by opposing PG's. He's actually a really good rebounder for someone his size and I think a few people will make the case that he should be higher. At 27, I'm not sure how much potential he has left. Probably the biggest steal in league history though.
Aar's List #11
At this point I kind of hit a wall. The guys from here down are pretty much the cream of the crop. I think they have quite a bit more value than the guys before them.
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George Hall C 26 7'1'' 290 A- F D+ A- A- B
I really like Hall every since I did the profile. I modeled him after Shaq, and for the most part he's playing the role. The FT% is pretty depressing, but I think he can get around 50% at some point. Not sure what kind of AC's he has left. The blocks and rebounds are ridiculous. He's only 26, I think his scoring still has plenty of time to improve. I actually had him a lot higher for a while, but his FT% is just so bad. Now that he's on a great team he's not taking as many shots as he did before and his numbers have taken a pretty big hit. I still really like him as a defensive player and think he can still get better.
Aar's List #9
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Evan Dickerson C 23 7'0'' 228 B+ C C- A- A- B
Good player, not great though. I moved him around quite a few times before he landed here. He's really just not a great offensive player. The blocks are nice, but there are a lot of guys that put up similar numbers. He has never done over 20ppg, a bit troubling. He is obviously a very good rebounder though. I don't think his value is as high as Aar rated it to be. Still young though, has plenty of room to grow.
Aar's List #8
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Vince McCracken SG 22 6'5'' 203 B+ A- B- B C A
This one is all based on value. Right now the guy is not putting up good numbers. 42%FG/37%3FG/75%FT is pretty meh. He's not much of a steals guy, and not really that great at limiting his TO's. Even with all these things most guys would love to have him on their team. He still has plenty of room to grow and he is still putting up 24ppg. Play will no doubt think he should be higher.
Aar's List #6
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Earl Dawson PG 23 6'2'' 179 B+ B- A- A C B
I really like this guy. His ast:TO ratio is nasty. He is a pretty good scorer, who also can get assists. I actually had him a little higher, but I think the consensus in the league is that he should be a little lower. He still needs to have some work on his 3PT, but that is usually something that can usually be improved by guards. I wonder if people would do a McCracken/Dawson trade? I'd say probably not.
Aar's List #16
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Alf Sjoberg C 22 7'0'' 299 B C+ C- A- A B
I really like this guy (probably because I made him). One of the best rebounders in the league and has turned into a very good shot-blocker. His scoring is getting there and he is an excellent FT shooter. The low TO's is great. At 22, he still has plenty of room to grow. I think this may be even a little low for him. He is really not far off O'Mara (outside of shot-blocking). I would love to see what he could do on a lesser team as a #1 option. He would be a 24/13 type guy. I think he is severly underrated by everyone in the league, besides Broph. I really don't think Broph would trade him for a few of the guys lower on the list.
Aar's List #25
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Michael Gilchrist SF 27 6'7'' 208 A- A C A A- D
Gilchrist is no doubt a great player. One of the best scorers in the league and also a superb rebounder. He does not get many blocks or steals, which means his man-to-man D must be pretty great. He is sort of getting up at year and at 27, is rarely talked about. He's been stuck on a middle of the road Lakers team for a few years now. Might be time to trade him while he still has high value. I've sort of come to the conclusion I like the slightly older more talented guys over the young guys with potential (no homo).
Aar's List #13
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Kyrie Irving PG 28 6'1'' 176 C+ A A+ B+ D- D
Great player, but for a guy with his passing ability under 10apg is a bit disappointing. His precentages are pretty awesome. He's another guy who's probably just about hitting the down-swing. He'll be a great player for a while, but this might be as high as he gets for the rest of his career. Irving's pretty good at limiting his TO's, so that's nice. He's got at least 4 good years left. Maybe more. His scoring this year is the highest it's ever been, and his shooting percentages are as good as ever.
Aar's List #10
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Jonas Valanciunas PF 27 6'11'' 260 A B C B A C
Ok, not sure about this one. He's a really awesome player, but he needs to have guys that create TO's around him. He's a great scorer and rebounder. At 27, he still has quite a few years left. I'm interested to see if Marty trades him and for how much he goes for. 28/12 is pretty good especially on 47%FG/84%FT/39%3FG. It would be nice to see him on a contender instead of shitting the bed with the rest of the Clippers. I also don't think some of the younger guys above would be traded for him, but that might have more to do with how stingy people are.
Aar's List #7
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David Walker PF 22 6'11'' 241 A- C D+ A B+ C
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Stephen Flint PF 24 6'11'' 235 A- D D- A- A- B
Kind of grouping these guys together. Both probably the next great big men in the league. Not completely sold on either though. The trade value someone could get for either of these guys in through the roof. Year one of the Stephen Flint era has been pretty good. His FT shooting is a bit discouraging, but I think he has time to fix it. Walker looks quite a bit like LaMarcus Aldridge. Not really a bad thing, but I think people were expecting more. Both need to improve some in order to hit this level next year. I think an improvement in blocks would help both guys tremendously.
Aar's List: Walker #4, Flint #5
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Derrick Favors PF 29 6'10'' 249 A- C- D B A- B
I definitely fucked this one up. I got to 15 and did not have him on the list. I actually think he may be higher. I guess it really depends on if we're talking about talent or trade value. The stats probably put him all the way up past Perry. This is a guy I think I will move around a few times. 32/13/4 on almost 50%FG and 80%FT is pretty awesome. Probably still the best big man in the league. After this year, at least one of the two guys above him will probably pass him. His numbers are just too ridiculous this year to have him any lower.
Aar's List #12
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Sean O'Mara C 24 7'1'' 314 B+ C- D+ B A- C
Ok, a lot of people are going to disagree with this choice. Maybe I'm basing this too much of his stats. He is only 24, and he's on a pretty good team and is averaging 12.9rpg and 3.7bpg. Those stats alone are pretty great. He is also putting up 23 points on a solid FG%. He really needs to get some work done on his FT shooting, but if he can get over 75% he would be amazing. Should be DPOY quite a few times in the next five years. Not really digging Walker or Flint just yet.
Aar's List #14
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Perry Jones SF 29 7'0'' 230 A- A- A- A+ B+ C
Jones is awesome again this year, just like he's been his whole career. 30/9/5 on ridiculous percentages (50/90/41). His TO's are under two which is great for a guy taking that many shots. The negatives on Jones is that he'll be 30 next year, he'll definitely fall over the next few years. He's had a good run and I would expect him to put up similar numbers to this year for about three or four years.
Aar's Rating #2
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Ray McCallum PG 27 6'1'' 188 B+ A- A A C- C
OK, not sure where people stand on this. I did not really like McCallum until I looked at his numbers. They are absolutely ridiculous. He's only 27, and he plays the most important position in the game. Nuts to think that Habes had both him and Knight. Should have just kept them both and figured out a way to make it work. You would have far and away the best passing team in the league. When I first put the list together his numbers were much better, so it was a no-brainer. Now, I'm not really sure. I think the top 7 or 8 could be interchangebale. I still like McCallum because of how important PG is in FBB.
Aar's List #3
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Jacquez Knight PG 22 6'3'' 192 A- A- A B+ C A
Not really much to say about this, the guys fucking awesome. Obviously 29ppg/6rpg/10apg is sick. His TO's are at 2, and he still obviously has a ton of room to grow. The steals numbers are great (2.5spg). His contract is expiring, but seriously who cares. He might be the best overall player in the league and he is only 22. I bet he'll do 4-5 MVP awards. The Heat were lucky to get him, I would not have traded Knight if I had been in Habes's position.
Aar's List #1
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Dan Davis SF 25 6'6'' 220 B+ A- C+ A C- C
I like his percentages and I think he can still improve. He's pretty young and he has great size for the SG position. His TO situation is pretty good and with most players, I think his steals will increase. The premium on good SG's is about to go way up. We have a ton of great bigs coming up, but not too many SG's. I think it will be the hardest position to net in a few years. I have a feeling his stock is only going to go up in the next few seasons.
Aar's List #15
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Andrew Wiggins PF 25 7'0'' 264 B+ C- D A- B B
I really like Higgins. His FG% this year is shit, but his defense and rebounding is massive. I think the FG% can get better. He's just about as good as Drummond, but I think he has more potential. His value is pretty high. He's at 5.6 BPG+SPG, that's great. He's still a work in progress, but I like the upside quite a bit. His deal is kind of crap, only two years and he'll have another MAX. Definitely worth it though.
Aar's List #30
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Allan Avery SG 25 6'2'' 208 A- A C B C C
I really like Avery. He's a pretty awesome player. I think he will be able to get his TO's under 2 at some point. He has nice steals numbers and is a great shooter percentages wise. I think his height really hurts, but I'm not sure how much of an effect it really makes in FBB. If he was 6'5 he'd be in the top 10. I think that's a bit unfair. I really think this is low, but I think his general value is relatively low. Will probably one of the best scorers in the league for years to come.
Aar's List #17
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Quentin Derrick PG 27 5'7'' 157 B A A+ A C D
I have never really been a huge Derrick fan. I think for the beginning of his career he just put up monster numbers on shit teams. The amount of quality PG's in the league lowers his value some. I also really don't like his height, I feel like he probably gets scored on pretty easily by opposing PG's. He's actually a really good rebounder for someone his size and I think a few people will make the case that he should be higher. At 27, I'm not sure how much potential he has left. Probably the biggest steal in league history though.
Aar's List #11
At this point I kind of hit a wall. The guys from here down are pretty much the cream of the crop. I think they have quite a bit more value than the guys before them.
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George Hall C 26 7'1'' 290 A- F D+ A- A- B
I really like Hall every since I did the profile. I modeled him after Shaq, and for the most part he's playing the role. The FT% is pretty depressing, but I think he can get around 50% at some point. Not sure what kind of AC's he has left. The blocks and rebounds are ridiculous. He's only 26, I think his scoring still has plenty of time to improve. I actually had him a lot higher for a while, but his FT% is just so bad. Now that he's on a great team he's not taking as many shots as he did before and his numbers have taken a pretty big hit. I still really like him as a defensive player and think he can still get better.
Aar's List #9
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Evan Dickerson C 23 7'0'' 228 B+ C C- A- A- B
Good player, not great though. I moved him around quite a few times before he landed here. He's really just not a great offensive player. The blocks are nice, but there are a lot of guys that put up similar numbers. He has never done over 20ppg, a bit troubling. He is obviously a very good rebounder though. I don't think his value is as high as Aar rated it to be. Still young though, has plenty of room to grow.
Aar's List #8
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Vince McCracken SG 22 6'5'' 203 B+ A- B- B C A
This one is all based on value. Right now the guy is not putting up good numbers. 42%FG/37%3FG/75%FT is pretty meh. He's not much of a steals guy, and not really that great at limiting his TO's. Even with all these things most guys would love to have him on their team. He still has plenty of room to grow and he is still putting up 24ppg. Play will no doubt think he should be higher.
Aar's List #6
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Earl Dawson PG 23 6'2'' 179 B+ B- A- A C B
I really like this guy. His ast:TO ratio is nasty. He is a pretty good scorer, who also can get assists. I actually had him a little higher, but I think the consensus in the league is that he should be a little lower. He still needs to have some work on his 3PT, but that is usually something that can usually be improved by guards. I wonder if people would do a McCracken/Dawson trade? I'd say probably not.
Aar's List #16
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Alf Sjoberg C 22 7'0'' 299 B C+ C- A- A B
I really like this guy (probably because I made him). One of the best rebounders in the league and has turned into a very good shot-blocker. His scoring is getting there and he is an excellent FT shooter. The low TO's is great. At 22, he still has plenty of room to grow. I think this may be even a little low for him. He is really not far off O'Mara (outside of shot-blocking). I would love to see what he could do on a lesser team as a #1 option. He would be a 24/13 type guy. I think he is severly underrated by everyone in the league, besides Broph. I really don't think Broph would trade him for a few of the guys lower on the list.
Aar's List #25
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Michael Gilchrist SF 27 6'7'' 208 A- A C A A- D
Gilchrist is no doubt a great player. One of the best scorers in the league and also a superb rebounder. He does not get many blocks or steals, which means his man-to-man D must be pretty great. He is sort of getting up at year and at 27, is rarely talked about. He's been stuck on a middle of the road Lakers team for a few years now. Might be time to trade him while he still has high value. I've sort of come to the conclusion I like the slightly older more talented guys over the young guys with potential (no homo).
Aar's List #13
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Kyrie Irving PG 28 6'1'' 176 C+ A A+ B+ D- D
Great player, but for a guy with his passing ability under 10apg is a bit disappointing. His precentages are pretty awesome. He's another guy who's probably just about hitting the down-swing. He'll be a great player for a while, but this might be as high as he gets for the rest of his career. Irving's pretty good at limiting his TO's, so that's nice. He's got at least 4 good years left. Maybe more. His scoring this year is the highest it's ever been, and his shooting percentages are as good as ever.
Aar's List #10
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Jonas Valanciunas PF 27 6'11'' 260 A B C B A C
Ok, not sure about this one. He's a really awesome player, but he needs to have guys that create TO's around him. He's a great scorer and rebounder. At 27, he still has quite a few years left. I'm interested to see if Marty trades him and for how much he goes for. 28/12 is pretty good especially on 47%FG/84%FT/39%3FG. It would be nice to see him on a contender instead of shitting the bed with the rest of the Clippers. I also don't think some of the younger guys above would be traded for him, but that might have more to do with how stingy people are.
Aar's List #7
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David Walker PF 22 6'11'' 241 A- C D+ A B+ C
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Stephen Flint PF 24 6'11'' 235 A- D D- A- A- B
Kind of grouping these guys together. Both probably the next great big men in the league. Not completely sold on either though. The trade value someone could get for either of these guys in through the roof. Year one of the Stephen Flint era has been pretty good. His FT shooting is a bit discouraging, but I think he has time to fix it. Walker looks quite a bit like LaMarcus Aldridge. Not really a bad thing, but I think people were expecting more. Both need to improve some in order to hit this level next year. I think an improvement in blocks would help both guys tremendously.
Aar's List: Walker #4, Flint #5
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Derrick Favors PF 29 6'10'' 249 A- C- D B A- B
I definitely fucked this one up. I got to 15 and did not have him on the list. I actually think he may be higher. I guess it really depends on if we're talking about talent or trade value. The stats probably put him all the way up past Perry. This is a guy I think I will move around a few times. 32/13/4 on almost 50%FG and 80%FT is pretty awesome. Probably still the best big man in the league. After this year, at least one of the two guys above him will probably pass him. His numbers are just too ridiculous this year to have him any lower.
Aar's List #12
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Sean O'Mara C 24 7'1'' 314 B+ C- D+ B A- C
Ok, a lot of people are going to disagree with this choice. Maybe I'm basing this too much of his stats. He is only 24, and he's on a pretty good team and is averaging 12.9rpg and 3.7bpg. Those stats alone are pretty great. He is also putting up 23 points on a solid FG%. He really needs to get some work done on his FT shooting, but if he can get over 75% he would be amazing. Should be DPOY quite a few times in the next five years. Not really digging Walker or Flint just yet.
Aar's List #14
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Perry Jones SF 29 7'0'' 230 A- A- A- A+ B+ C
Jones is awesome again this year, just like he's been his whole career. 30/9/5 on ridiculous percentages (50/90/41). His TO's are under two which is great for a guy taking that many shots. The negatives on Jones is that he'll be 30 next year, he'll definitely fall over the next few years. He's had a good run and I would expect him to put up similar numbers to this year for about three or four years.
Aar's Rating #2
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Ray McCallum PG 27 6'1'' 188 B+ A- A A C- C
OK, not sure where people stand on this. I did not really like McCallum until I looked at his numbers. They are absolutely ridiculous. He's only 27, and he plays the most important position in the game. Nuts to think that Habes had both him and Knight. Should have just kept them both and figured out a way to make it work. You would have far and away the best passing team in the league. When I first put the list together his numbers were much better, so it was a no-brainer. Now, I'm not really sure. I think the top 7 or 8 could be interchangebale. I still like McCallum because of how important PG is in FBB.
Aar's List #3
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Jacquez Knight PG 22 6'3'' 192 A- A- A B+ C A
Not really much to say about this, the guys fucking awesome. Obviously 29ppg/6rpg/10apg is sick. His TO's are at 2, and he still obviously has a ton of room to grow. The steals numbers are great (2.5spg). His contract is expiring, but seriously who cares. He might be the best overall player in the league and he is only 22. I bet he'll do 4-5 MVP awards. The Heat were lucky to get him, I would not have traded Knight if I had been in Habes's position.
Aar's List #1
